Tuesday, August 15, 2006

Back to Square One

And there we go again. Just like how the national dialogue rounds kept on being postponed until all hell broke loose, now we're witnessing a postponement upon postponement of the Cabinet meeting since the Cabinet ministers met last when they agreed to UNSCR 1701, with some reservations (ma3 ba3d al-tahaffouzat). It's becoming clear that "some reservations" is not to be dismissed of, it's what will make and break the Lebanese state's will.

Add the second consecutive postponement of the Cabinet meeting with what Syrian President Assad said today, and you'll start to sense bleakness on the horizons.

President Assad basically claimed Hizbullah victorious and added that some political factions in Lebanon, namely the March 14 coalition, have encouraged Israel to attack Lebanon to disarm Hizbullah and that this coalition is the same one that wanted to sign a peace treaty with Israel back in 17th May of 1982 and so they bear responsibility for their country's destruction. He also said that the Lebanese who want to disarm Hizbullah have failed and their fall is near.

President Assad's words are significant for pro-Syrian politicians in Lebanon and are a sign to unleash the propaganda war.

Please don't tell me that we're not back to square one? And what did Israel achieve with its hasty and brutal attack on Lebanon? It only emboldened Syria and Iran and made out of Hizbullah's arms, resistance arms.

"Nobody knows how many rebellions, besides political rebellions, ferment in the masses of life which people earth."

17 comments:

Μαύρος Γάτος said...

Okay, everybody is a winner. The only losers are the 1000+ dead Lebanese civilians, the wounded, the homeless, the refugees....

I would like to rejoice for peace, but realistically speaking, what peace, how long is it going to last? I sincerely hope forever, but listening to the persons in power I am very, very afraid. I will cry along with Raja ENOUGH, Nasrala, Olmert, Assad, Ahmedadji.....etc, Bush, Blair, etc!

PEACE! NOW!

Rampurple said...

doha... i worry we're not back to square one .... we are below that even... i fear that we're in a worst situation than in 1990

yaser said...

Doha,
this is very unfortunate what prisedent assad said about 17th ayar (may)and all that nonsence and those accusations against the real patriotic majority in lebanon which is the real representative of the lebanese unlike our illigetimate regime.
we should have hope and now that the military war is over there is a bigger task ahead of us to ensure that the democratic and peace-oriented people raise thier voice and establish peace and prosperity in the ME

Akiva M said...

Hmm . . . "David McGreggor"'s post on his blog? Titled "Am Yisra'el khay"

American jews don't spell the hebrew word for life with a "KH", btw, or a Y. They spell it "Chai". Non-religious ones would actually spell it "hai"

Huntington, NY, huh?

Solomon2 said...

And what did Israel achieve with its hasty and brutal attack on Lebanon? It only emboldened Syria and Iran and made out of Hizbullah's arms, resistance arms.

Certainly Israel achieved more than that. The pernicious thing about false propaganda is that even if you don't believe it, it puts certain interpretations at the top of your mind, and to avoid dissonance your mind may eventually adjust accordingly. Israel destroyed much of Hezbollah's fixed infrastructure, used up or eliminated thousands of its rockets, killed hundreds of its terrorists, and the cease-fire left Israeli soldiers unchallenged as they bathe their toes in the Litani.

It seems the shock of war and the constant pro-Hezbollah propaganda have freaked the Lebanese into thinking that Hezbollah is stronger, when it is in fact weaker and more easily challenged than before - for the moment at least, before its fighters are reinforced and re-equipped. The sooner the Lebanese move to confront Hezbollah, the more likely the chance of success and at the least cost. I don't think Lebanon can rely on Israel to do it for them, and the French now say that disarming Hezb must come before they deploy, not after - indeed, according to Le Monde, it was always the French intention that Hezbollah emerge intact from the cease-fire!

The Israelis feel more secure than before. The ball is now in Lebanon's court, even more than it was after Hariri was assassinated.

Amon Ra said...

In Iran, Mr Ahmadinejad said Hezbollah had foiled plans to forge a Middle East dominated by "the US, Britain and Zionists".

"God's promises have come true," he told a cheering crowd in the north-western city of Arbadil.

"On one side, it's corrupt powers.... with modern bombs and planes. And on the other side is a group of pious youth relying on God."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4794363.stm

ΜΕ has been dominated by UK, Italy France and later on US since the gradual decline of the Ottoman Empire because of the oil. But the fact he is currently using this kind of discourse is going to isolate him further and further.

It is always beautiful to hear corrupted people talking for other corrupted people. And of course... What a great victory indeed...

Can anybody inform if there has been any progress regarding the prisoners???

Andrey said...

Information for your consideration:
The 3 prissoners, which HA asked to release for the 2 soldiers are:
-Nasim Nasser (an Israeli citizen, serving a 25 year sentence for spying for Hezb'Allah),
-Yehiya Saqaf (a Lebanese Hezb'Allah member who Israel claims died in a firefight but Hezb'Allah insists is still alive)
-Samir Kuntar (you all know who that is)

And a question: Is it true that al-manar showed photos of kuntar with a writing "Isn't he worth a war" ?

Andrey said...

Take a look:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CN666q3ptAU&mode=related&search=

Liliane said...

Quoting 1earth:

----Here we go again, "Israel's attack"!. Once again you Arabs are blind to the concept of personal responsibility and cause and effect. What a twisted world you live in, a universe where Lebanon's attack on Israel is "Islamic Resistance" but Israel's self defense is an "attack." And black is white and up is down to Arabs...---

First of all, if you're not looking for peace with Arabs, why do come to Lebanese blogs, I suggest you respect everyone and everyone will respect you back. Don't do the "you arabs", that's degrading... for you!

Second of all, If Israel was fighting in Israel, yeah I could understand it as defense, but when it goes into Lebanon, on the ground of Lebanon and attacks the LEBANESE Resistence, then it's ATTACKING and not defending.
Have you not played basketball before? It will easily explain to you this concept.

Last but not least, I suggest you watch this footage entirely, and then come back to reply to us.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7828123714384920696

My brother in humanity, please watch this video, I suggest everyone does.

Liliane
www.independence05.com/blog

Liliane said...

I don't understand how you can call each other names! How do you expect to even convince the other of what you think if you call each other names???

I don't understand this! Take it easy, el shatar inno tdalkoun me7termin ba3ed in order to reach a point. Orelse just don't go into the fight in the first place!

Masi7eh bi sib meslim, w meslim bi sib meslim, meslim bi sib masi7e, w masi7e bi sib masi7e, shou hayda?

The war just ended, either unite, aw iza la2 khalas ya3ne, bye bye lebnen!

Stop judging others actions by religion! Or at least represent your religion well.

Wayloun li oummatin taksourou fiha al tawa2ef w takhlou minal din!

Tour Guide Jack said...

My God, I feel like I just read War and Peace. If some of you spent half the amount of time working toward a solution as you do writing here, the crisis in the Middle East would have been solved long ago. Of course, there seem to be a number of you who do not want to find an equitable solution. Compromise and negotiation is a lot harder than name calling and accusations. And all the blather about each other's true identities and grammatical accuracies - it's really not so surprising that the majority of people here read the news coverage, shake their heads and turn to the sports pages. How sad.

Bravo 2-1 said...

A bleak horizon indeed, because a prolonged pause without much answers will have the following effects.

1.) Slow the UN reinforcements

2.) Raise ire in Israel

3.) Rest and re-equip Hezbollah

Liliane said...

Hi Chuck,

Let me see if I understood you right, you're saying I should go find movies about how Iran or Iraq or I donno, some Arabs and Muslims brain wash their people. Well I can find some, this happens with extremists.
Probably the palestinians seems to act righterous, and Israelis or Americans seem to criticise, well I mean if half their lives their under occupations, not being let to go in or out, being patronized, I can't understand how this will give them an objective mind.

Listen Chuck, what I understood from this footage, is that if a side wants violence to end, they should stop creating reasons for it.

I believe in peace and I believe in objectivity. This footage probably focused more on showing the bad side of American media and Israeli Media and whatever, but this is because it needs to be done! Because everything else in Israel and America is pro Israel and America!

I am in the US, and I have the arabic channels, I see how arabic channels show a big part of what is happening in Israel, and they don't hide it, and I see how they show the truth in Lebanon as well!
And then, I flip to another american media news, and what do I see?
I see them showing pictures from Beirut and talking about Israel.
I see them barely showing anything in Lebanon, making people understand that Israel was only defending themselves, and if civilians were dead it, they just mention it like me mentioning a cloud!
I saw it in my own eyes Mr. Chuck! I am against an form of prejudice, and I am against extremists in Islam as well!
I don't mind being in peace with Israel! but of course, not with the Israeli government at this moment!
I hope you understand my point.
(Please reply to me on my blog, coz I don't always check it here and its getting crowded, and I care to continue our discussion)

TO DUNES:

Probably those who are cussing each other are teenagers, make same as you, who by no meaning are mature and represent all Lebanese! There are people with senses in Lebanon, and there are those who are driven by prejudic! Just as it is the same in Israel, US, France, Germany.. Everyone!
Don't judge!

Liliane said...

And I agree with you copy editor, if things are not solved fast, we'll drown again.

Shine said...

Annasru,

Your logic is faulty. First of all, Israel has sued for peace time and time again, offered land and other initiatives for peace, and every time their hand is burned, except for a few unique cases like Egypt and Jordan. This whole war was started because Israelis themselves finally realized they will NEVER achieve peace, through settlement.

2nd of all, yes, Israel DOES have weapons and nukes and the training to use them. However, please name a time that Israel used them when they weren't just attacked or under threat of attack. Those weapons are for self defense agains the millions of enemies surrounding Israel.

Of every person I've ever seen criticize or demonize Israel, I don't think any of them have ever actually worked up the courage to share how they feel, and their version of the facts, with an actual Israeli. All these people do is monger and diatribe and feed on the lies of their leaders.

I think it is finally time for some honest discourse on the whole situation, from beginning to end. Hammer out the problems and their origins, and possible solutions, that are reasonable, and don't simply achieve the objectives of one side or another. This is possible. But not if both sides don't want it. Right now, Israel is tired of waiting for the arab side of the equation to balance out. So you have the Lebanon war.

More discourse = less death and destruction. But nobody seems to learn that.

Liliane said...

I am not saying you are, how can I know. I said you sound like one.

Now go ahead and do what I expect you to do :)

Liliane said...

No no, I don't know YOU per se, it's just most human beings are predictable when reacting to certain actions.

Anyway I think we're getting out of the subject of the topic, and out of respect to the owners. I will stop here.

Remember everyone! Put your differences aside, if we all care for Lebanon (top of the list), I don't see what's there to divide us!

"Together we stand, Divided we fall."