tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10968421.post113172768332590404..comments2024-03-23T02:40:59.858-05:00Comments on The Lebanese Bloggers: The Arab Identity - Is it in the process of ChangingRajahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02625042447499335907noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10968421.post-1700795447115137862019-05-23T23:24:54.409-05:002019-05-23T23:24:54.409-05:00zenci porno<a href="http://www.18porns.com/bu-yarakla-bu-kadin-cok-zorlaniyor/" rel="nofollow">zenci porno</a><br />osm18https://www.blogger.com/profile/06363108084610280085noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10968421.post-1163210475081236952006-11-10T21:01:00.000-05:002006-11-10T21:01:00.000-05:00Why would you subject yourself to having such a ca...Why would you subject yourself to having such a cartoonish girlfriend? Are you that desperate to get laid?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10968421.post-1132738574193008352005-11-23T04:36:00.000-05:002005-11-23T04:36:00.000-05:00OK, here is a serious question: My girl friend thi...OK, here is a serious question: My girl friend think that lebanese accent is (musical) becasue lebanese are influnced by French language!!! I personally thought maybe? but what about 100 years ago? lebanese accent had no music to it? canot we just give credit to natural local influence? she sight incidents were people thought she was french( while speaking "lebanese" !!! but that happenes to me as well (while speaking syrian!!!) and I could swear to God that no one in my family had ever spoken or was influenced by the french culture. isn't that a little over board?? I might be annoying all of you with these issues, but that is how this identity boils down to in a day to day basis bewtween who claim to be arab and those who claim to be frencho-medater-phoneciansAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10968421.post-1132738080520593442005-11-23T04:28:00.000-05:002005-11-23T04:28:00.000-05:00I wanted to share with you an experminet i did wit...I wanted to share with you an experminet i did with my lebanese girlfriend (i am syrian)... So we live in the states and we asked an american fellow to ask both of us questions that he thought define one's identity. things like music, food, language, history,dance, blood,geography..our answers were almost identical..yet my girlfriend insisted that she is mediteranian/french/ phenocian!! Our american friend sensed no difference and sujjested that our differences are as shallow as the differences between a texan and a californian. I guess I would like to ask you guys the following question, is this desire to be different normal? do you have to lie to your self just to feel different? i am yet to find an answer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10968421.post-1132735516685738422005-11-23T03:45:00.000-05:002005-11-23T03:45:00.000-05:00right, It is hight time for Arabasim to transform ...right, It is hight time for Arabasim to transform from a political idea into an identity based soley on history, blood, language and culture. It is well documented that maronite lebanese don't wish to be associted with arabism and chose an imaginary honory roots (phoniciens) that no educated person could ever justify. I am enthuastic about PM Senyoura comments in a sense that it could replace the supremcy of the maronites as non arabs, to asupramcy of lebanese people as democaratic and open arabs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10968421.post-1131952465878721922005-11-14T02:14:00.000-05:002005-11-14T02:14:00.000-05:00Tony, to be honest with you, I was a bit taken aba...Tony, to be honest with you, I was a bit taken aback by Marshall's reference to civilization. Keep in mind though, that what Marshall implies by that concept is a culture of the elite which the masses gradually gain access to as their political, social, civil and material conditions improve with the passing of time. Defined as such, I believe that a Lebanese Civilization does exist. Unfortunately though, "loyalty" to it is a whole different matter and, as a result of the overwhelming focus on sectarian differences, is probably not even acknowledged by the majority of Lebanese.<BR/><BR/>In that sense, Lebanon has some way to go. Consequently it remains essential, for the time being, to focus our perception of Lebanon in political terms, i.e. as a polity rather than a volk (as you mentioned above). Lebanon, percieved as such, is a polity that houses different and intersecting civilizational/cultural forces, which in turn coincide roughly with its major sects. Is such a conception inaccurate from the one you were trying to convey?Rajahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02625042447499335907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10968421.post-1131902888661103302005-11-13T12:28:00.000-05:002005-11-13T12:28:00.000-05:00I love that characterization of The Hair.I love that characterization of The Hair.Rajahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02625042447499335907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10968421.post-1131902746476286312005-11-13T12:25:00.000-05:002005-11-13T12:25:00.000-05:00I have a bit of a problem with the Marshall quote....I have a bit of a problem with the Marshall quote. I've talked about state as contract, and that increasingly, this is the new understanding of Lebanon that's emerging, especially with the likes of Seniora. It should continue like that, because in the end Lebanon is a <I>polity</I>. <BR/><BR/>By the way, it's clear that the insistence (by HA or others) on its Arabness now has nothing to do with "civilizational" or "cultural" issues. It has to do with the prism of the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. <BR/><BR/>So, by refocusing the outlook on Lebanon in political terms (not 19th c. volkish notions of "nation-state"), as a polity, Arabness can be reframed in cultural terms. Then Seniora's comments, which I called quintessentially Lebanese, make perfect sense in that Lebanon is at once Arab and open to Western cultures. It's much closer to the 1943 formulation than one might think, and that precisely is what is irritating the idiotic Joseph Samaha. The political primacy of Lebanon (which is what you're saying, by not narrowing the Arab identity to the political Palestine issue, or any trans-national political causes) is the underlying premise. Within this polity, Arab culture thrives, along with openness to other cultures. This is not to say that geopolitically Lebanon ceases to be "Arab." It just refocuses the definitions and concepts.<BR/><BR/>That is why Seniora's formulation will find unanimous support in Christian political circles. It's quintessentially Lebanese.Master Blasterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07851997319825559488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10968421.post-1131900615923280222005-11-13T11:50:00.000-05:002005-11-13T11:50:00.000-05:00Who else thought Bashar's speech was good? The idi...Who else thought Bashar's speech was good? The idiot <A HREF="http://angryarab.blogspot.com/2005/11/judith-miller-american-flag-bashshars.html" REL="nofollow">Angry Hair</A> of course. He in fact particularly loved the attacks on Seniora and Hariri. Also, he's eager to torpedo the government. I guess Leninism, and that Hair, does that to your brain. And this guy teaches people... and gets paid for it... from tax payers' money...<BR/><BR/>What a colossal utterly irresponsible moron. <BR/><BR/>I still think Martin Kramer's characterization of him is the most perfect one out there:<BR/><BR/><I>"AbuKhalil speaks for a certain brand of revolutionary, utopian secular Arabism that lost most of its following in the Middle East 20 years ago." "He is against the Arab regimes, against Israel, against U.S. policy, against the Islamists, against the liberals, against the reformists. ... He's the perfect example of the supremely principled and supremely irresponsible Arab intellectual. And so he's a luxury only America can afford."</I>Master Blasterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07851997319825559488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10968421.post-1131833452937641962005-11-12T17:10:00.000-05:002005-11-12T17:10:00.000-05:00Raja, did you read Joseph Samaha's column today in...Raja, did you read Joseph Samaha's column today in As-Safir? If you'r ein the mood to lift your blood pressure, go right ahead. No wonder he's the Hair's favorite columnist. He just trashed your theory (of course, I disagree with him).<BR/><BR/>If you miss it, email me. I've saved it. It's that type of column. I have a feeling that Hizbullah's reaction will be along the same lines as his.Master Blasterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07851997319825559488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10968421.post-1131801719965177742005-11-12T08:21:00.000-05:002005-11-12T08:21:00.000-05:00Let's stop importing bad ideas."Europe" is vague (...Let's stop importing bad ideas.<BR/><BR/>"Europe" is vague (that's the good thing about it).<BR/><BR/>EU is (was?) broken. I don't want to be ruled by Brussels/Arab League bureaufucks.JoseyWaleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04107151613511099711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10968421.post-1131749284452900492005-11-11T17:48:00.000-05:002005-11-11T17:48:00.000-05:00Right, those non-baseball-playing anti-Americans f...Right, those non-baseball-playing anti-Americans famous for their fondness of beer and funny winter hats. I also suppose that the same goes for the just-announced Iraqi national reconciliation conference sponsored by the Arab League - no Baathists allowed. Sometimes a common ground is available only to those looking for antipathy, I suppose.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10968421.post-1131731867612884982005-11-11T12:57:00.000-05:002005-11-11T12:57:00.000-05:00Raja, to be precise, my position on Arabism is th...Raja, to be precise, my position on Arabism is the same as that of the Britts on Europe, i.e. not without skepticism (with a lustful eye on the huge common market nevertheless)<BR/><BR/>Also, there are indeed first world nations that define themselves by what they're not because of their cultural insecurity. look at CanadaMustaphahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04677450720842640863noreply@blogger.com