tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10968421.post115532556941913193..comments2024-03-23T02:40:59.858-05:00Comments on The Lebanese Bloggers: Agreement Reached on UN ResolutionRajahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02625042447499335907noreply@blogger.comBlogger41125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10968421.post-1155546781952581742006-08-14T04:13:00.000-05:002006-08-14T04:13:00.000-05:00Is that true what i heard...cease-fire!from 8 am t...Is that true what i heard...<BR/><BR/>cease-fire!<BR/><BR/>from 8 am today morning?...<BR/><BR/>Everything under peace?....<BR/><BR/>Both sides say that have won!....Ecumenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11847427156106725996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10968421.post-1155464524364203082006-08-13T05:22:00.000-05:002006-08-13T05:22:00.000-05:00For an agreement with Nasrallahone should know his...For an <B>agreement with Nasrallah</B><BR/>one should know his secrets<BR/>and his profile.<BR/><BR/><B>"Arab World Finds Icon<BR/>in Leader of Hezbollah"</B><BR/>Neil MacFarquhar<BR/><B>The New York Times</B><BR/>Monday, August 7, 2006<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.bintjbeil.com/articles/2006/en/0807-macf.html" REL="nofollow">he also — very unusually — cracks jokes. <BR/><BR/>Prof. Nizar Hamzeh, who teaches international relations at the American University of Kuwait and has written a book on Hezbollah, recalled a Nasrallah speech from last year, given while Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice was in the region. A helicopter happened to clatter overhead at some point while he was criticizing United States meddling, and the sheik quipped, “You might be able to catch a glimpse of her now; I hope she sees us as well.” The crowd roared.<BR/><BR/>He has never pushed hard-line Islamic rules like veils for women in the neighborhoods that Hezbollah controls, which analysts attribute to his exposure to many of Lebanon’s 17 sects. <BR/><BR/>Born in 1960 in Beirut, Sheik Nasrallah grew up in the Karanteena district of eastern Beirut, a mixed neighborhood of impoverished Christian Armenians, Druse, Palestinians and Shiites. <BR/><BR/>His father had a small vegetable stand, but the 1975 eruption of the civil war forced the family to flee to their native southern village.</A>Ecumenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11847427156106725996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10968421.post-1155436564675696882006-08-12T21:36:00.000-05:002006-08-12T21:36:00.000-05:00Your sources appear to be better than mine. I do n...Your sources appear to be better than mine. I do not understand what 18 soldiers are you talking of? So far no Israeli kidnapees have been reported in the fighting. If you are refering ot the Hezbollah fighters caught by Israel (such as the one in the video they released) then I think they can be released. There is no need for Israel to hold them to prove its point that HZ started it all. They are POWs, not like Kuntar. <BR/><BR/>As for the Israeli offenisve before the ceasefire, it is a well knnown fact that the Israelis do not trust the UN and have probably came up with this plan about two weeks ago when no end was in sight. The ceasefire enters its validity on Monday at 7 am... I hope it will lastThe Middle East News Addicthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04749242148575158828noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10968421.post-1155406302644459142006-08-12T13:11:00.002-05:002006-08-12T13:11:00.002-05:00in relation to the prisoner exchange i would like ...in relation to the prisoner exchange i would like for it to happen as follows.<BR/><BR/>Excuse me for any perception of bias.. but i think this is workable..<BR/><BR/>all prisoners be exchanged immediately into the custody of their country of origin on the basis that kuntar be judged under lebanese law as if his offences were committed on lebanese soil..<BR/><BR/>i think the morality and law of his own country should apply.. let us give the lebanese justice system a chance to demonstrate its principles..<BR/><BR/>wishing peace<BR/><BR/>lirun<BR/>telaviv<BR/>www.emspeace.blogspot.com<BR/>everything can be negotiatedLirunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16165940866092660086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10968421.post-1155405857121728892006-08-12T13:04:00.000-05:002006-08-12T13:04:00.000-05:00To Tears for LebanonJust like the Israeli prisoner...To Tears for Lebanon<BR/><BR/>Just like the Israeli prisoners, the Lebanese ones have also been mentioned in the preemble but not as immediate release; but as an issue to be resolved. Perosnally I see a huge difference between the two cases. You cannot compare 2 soldiers who were abducted from the Israeli side of the border to a Lebanese like Samir Kuntar who VOLUNTARILY infiltrated Israel in Naharyia via the sea, killed a police officer, a father and his two daughters and then got caught. There is a price to pay and that is the base of a legal system as I am sure you would also agree. <BR/><BR/>However both cases of the prisoners appear in the preamble of the resolution and not in the operational part. <BR/><BR/>Finally with regards to the Sheba farms they are not Israeli but Israel will probably negotiate with whoever the UN decides is the owner of the land (Labanon\Syria). At the moment this is Syrian land according to the UN and Israel until Syria SIGNS otherwise as oppose to saying otherwise.The Middle East News Addicthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04749242148575158828noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10968421.post-1155404440851738792006-08-12T12:40:00.000-05:002006-08-12T12:40:00.000-05:00Sami understand your anger..i however am not angry...Sam<BR/><BR/>i understand your anger..i however am not angry so there is no anger for you to understand..<BR/><BR/>i am sad that we havent made different choices and by we i mean everyone..<BR/><BR/>at the same nevertheless i am hopeful that we shall all learn from this and i believe that we shall work harder for peace.. at least i know that i shall<BR/><BR/>wishing us all safer times soon<BR/><BR/>lirun<BR/>telaviv<BR/>www.emspeace.blogspot.com<BR/>enough alreadyLirunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16165940866092660086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10968421.post-1155403106271472332006-08-12T12:18:00.000-05:002006-08-12T12:18:00.000-05:00tears,right or wrong, i think the reason the IDF i...tears,<BR/><BR/>right or wrong, i think the reason the IDF is ramping up is because olmert is trying to save a little face by trying to take out as many HA as possible before the cease fire. afterall their goal all along was to disarm HA, which was shown to pretty much be impossible, without absolutely destoying ALL of lebanon.<BR/><BR/>just my take on this issue<BR/><BR/>praying for peace NOWroot causehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15423187346527045751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10968421.post-1155399757567977832006-08-12T11:22:00.000-05:002006-08-12T11:22:00.000-05:00To fghIf this is the way you think, I think we sho...To fgh<BR/><BR/>If this is the way you think, I think we should all keep track of this blog because we will meet here again in a few months time discussing "the situation". Of course by then Israel will probably be less trusting of the UN as Nasrallah will portray this as victory (victory - the utter devastation of one's own country. Source: Hezbollah twisted dictionary). I hope to god that Lebanon will take this opportunity to reign in its sovereignty or we'll be here again with much more devastating reactions. As for the so called diplomatic victory for Hezbollah, let's examine that:<BR/><BR/>The resolution calls for the unconditional release of the Israeli soldiers with no connection to the Lebanese prisoners problem.<BR/><BR/>The resolution puts the blame squarely in Hezbollah's hands.<BR/><BR/>The resolution calls on Israel to halt all OFFENSIVE operations. This means that if Hezbollah fires again, Israel may retaliate with a DEFENCIEVE reaction. Now this is where everything gets tricky and it is an Israeli diplomatic achievment - For the Israelis, this whole war was DEFENCIEVE!<BR/><BR/>so I hope you do not get your views from Hezbollah for then we are all doomed.The Middle East News Addicthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04749242148575158828noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10968421.post-1155393279184603872006-08-12T09:34:00.000-05:002006-08-12T09:34:00.000-05:00by the way thank you for providing your take on th...by the way thank you for providing your take on the operation<BR/><BR/>i must agree with you that the misinformation is rampant.. the military effort by both sides has three tiers: combat.. propaganda and the drafting of some crazy version of history that sits somewhere in the imagination of officersLirunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16165940866092660086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10968421.post-1155393175318314302006-08-12T09:32:00.000-05:002006-08-12T09:32:00.000-05:00samomer is not the only peaceful israeli..there ar...sam<BR/><BR/>omer is not the only peaceful israeli..<BR/><BR/>there are many..<BR/><BR/>i dont wish for a wall between us.. i think a psychological wall has existed for too long.. this very wall has allowed both sides to ignore suffering on the other and act as if we were not neighbours but rather far away lands that existed in some other dimensions..<BR/><BR/>if this wall was removed and we finally acknowledged how significant the other is to our very existence perhaps then we could in fact live in peace instead of constantly sacrificing eachother´s security for are own tactical interests..<BR/><BR/>wishing you and us peace soon<BR/><BR/>lirun<BR/>from telaviv israel<BR/>www.emspeace.blogspot.com<BR/>tunnels of friendshipLirunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16165940866092660086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10968421.post-1155391922536795992006-08-12T09:12:00.000-05:002006-08-12T09:12:00.000-05:00hahahahahhahahahahahahahthat is hilarious!!!that w...hahahahahhahahahahahahah<BR/><BR/>that is hilarious!!!<BR/><BR/>that would make a great comedy show - i dont think they would be in the HA if they were against the idea ;)<BR/><BR/>but it would be fascinated to hear otherwise..<BR/><BR/>in any event you have made me laugh from the depths of my stomach - god bless you <BR/><BR/>lirun<BR/>www.emspeace.blogspot.com<BR/>laughing is good for peaceLirunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16165940866092660086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10968421.post-1155391580270118272006-08-12T09:06:00.000-05:002006-08-12T09:06:00.000-05:00@Liruni wonder if there is a HezbullahKatyusha-sho...@Lirun<BR/><BR/>i wonder if there is a Hezbullah<BR/><BR/><B>Katyusha-shooter that has refused <BR/><BR/>to bomb</B> because he concerns<BR/><BR/>on human casualties..............<BR/>..................................Ecumenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11847427156106725996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10968421.post-1155390493025171112006-08-12T08:48:00.000-05:002006-08-12T08:48:00.000-05:00shalom ergo te linai read the article.. it is impo...shalom ergo te lina<BR/><BR/>i read the article.. <BR/><BR/>it is impossible for me to tell if they are right or wrong but i am proud of them for being true to their morals..<BR/><BR/>this is for me the essence of the true israeli soldier - someone who is self questionning and compassionate.. <BR/><BR/>i have added their organisation to www.emspeace.blogspot.com<BR/><BR/>wishing us all peace soon..<BR/><BR/>cheers ergo<BR/><BR/>lirun<BR/>from telaviv<BR/>www.emspeace.blogspot.com<BR/>even in the darkest places one can find lightLirunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16165940866092660086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10968421.post-1155386713670679402006-08-12T07:45:00.000-05:002006-08-12T07:45:00.000-05:00@Lirun ...News for you!...i took it from http://he...@Lirun ...News for you!...<BR/><BR/>i took it from http://hellenic-reporter.blogspot.com/<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=06/08/09/1422204" REL="nofollow"> <BR/>Wednesday, August 9th, 2006<BR/>Fmr. Israeli Air Force Captain Reports Israeli Pilots Deliberately Missing Targets Over Concerns of Civilian Casualties</A>Ecumenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11847427156106725996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10968421.post-1155386048111563312006-08-12T07:34:00.000-05:002006-08-12T07:34:00.000-05:00its amazing how quickly a small cloud can cover th...its amazing how quickly a small cloud can cover the vast blue of the skies<BR/><BR/>wishing us all peace soon<BR/><BR/>lirun<BR/>www.emspeace.blogspot.com<BR/>needing it more than everLirunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16165940866092660086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10968421.post-1155374141835580942006-08-12T04:15:00.000-05:002006-08-12T04:15:00.000-05:00lirun,omer1.Are there modernizedRabbines and Mulah...lirun,omer<BR/><BR/>1.<B>Are there modernized<BR/>Rabbines and Mulahs<BR/>to make a common <BR/>demonstration-prayer for peace?</B>....<BR/><BR/>Or there is no dialog<BR/>between the two religions<BR/>that share the same heritage<BR/>of Old Testament?...<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>@mazdoc the name you have<BR/>derives of<BR/><BR/>Ahura Mazda is the Avestan language name for an exalted divinity of ancient proto-Indo-Iranian religion that was subsequently declared by Zarathustra (Zoroaster) to be the one uncreated creator of all (God).Ecumenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11847427156106725996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10968421.post-1155372730143035502006-08-12T03:52:00.000-05:002006-08-12T03:52:00.000-05:00my name is israeli alsoit has two partsli - my and...my name is israeli also<BR/><BR/>it has two parts<BR/><BR/>li - my and run (pronounced like running) which is a hebrew word for a particular kind of happiness that involves song..<BR/><BR/>in hebrew we have many many words that describe happiness and different kinds that are inspired in different ways.. most of these words are considered a bit biblical and the equivalent of our "shakespaerean".. i bet we have as many words for happiness as the eskimos have for snow.. if not more.. its a very important part of our culture..<BR/><BR/>they are used mostly in names - i hope one day their colloquial use is revived.. and their meanings become well known as we convert from having the reputation of a warrior nation and the world begins to know how much happiness we foster inside..Lirunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16165940866092660086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10968421.post-1155371966700090592006-08-12T03:39:00.000-05:002006-08-12T03:39:00.000-05:00you´re all correct.. UN resolutions mean nothing.....you´re all correct.. UN resolutions mean nothing.. the question is what to we - the people of the middle east - want.. what are we seeking and how do we want our future to be..<BR/><BR/>so you can sit at your computer all you like and tell me how this is all meaningless or you can go out and truly express your desire for peace to work.. <BR/><BR/>if you feel that it is politically antisocial you can send an email or write a letter or start yet another blog.. but dont just sit there and complain and say it wont work even though you want it.. dont tell me how wrong you hope you are.. instead go out and support what you think is right!!<BR/><BR/>we are facin a historical moment.. ok ok.. we are facing our computer screens at the time of a historical moment (that is more accurate) but we all are just as much to blame if it doesnt unfold as we want it to..<BR/><BR/>speak up people.. today is only here once..<BR/><BR/>wishing us all peace and a bit more proactivity<BR/><BR/>lirun<BR/>www.emspeace.blogspot.com<BR/>we can reach it if we tryLirunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16165940866092660086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10968421.post-1155371788786498482006-08-12T03:36:00.000-05:002006-08-12T03:36:00.000-05:00Omer...is that an israeli name?..Are you Arab from...Omer...is that an israeli name?..<BR/><BR/>Are you Arab from Isreal?...<BR/><BR/>Thank you for responding to me...<BR/><BR/>i d like to hear a lebanese opinion<BR/>too<BR/><BR/>:)Ecumenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11847427156106725996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10968421.post-1155371484289287232006-08-12T03:31:00.001-05:002006-08-12T03:31:00.001-05:00Mazdoc said we never liked IsraelAhura Mazda...d...Mazdoc said we never liked Israel<BR/><BR/>Ahura Mazda...does Zaratustra have<BR/>the same opinion to you?...<BR/><BR/><BR/>i am a Greek..<BR/>i like Israel,i like Lebanon<BR/>Palestine...and i wish all the world <BR/>to get peace..<BR/><BR/>Blogging and talking <BR/>with other people<BR/>brings the peace more close..<BR/><BR/>Shalom..Ecumenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11847427156106725996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10968421.post-1155371479720573272006-08-12T03:31:00.000-05:002006-08-12T03:31:00.000-05:00omeri think it is naive to expect that a katyusha ...omer<BR/><BR/>i think it is naive to expect that a katyusha will never land again in the immediate future..<BR/><BR/>however i hope we have learned that a measured response whereby we engage the international community better is a good way to go..<BR/><BR/>we have soo much to learn from these events that it is unbelievable..<BR/><BR/>i have to add that while i am ashamed of my leaders i am enamoured by my soldiers that had no hesitation to endanger themselves for my safety..<BR/><BR/>wishing this never recurs<BR/><BR/>lirun<BR/>www.emspeace.blogspot.com<BR/>may our soldiers become as active as those at buckingham ;)Lirunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16165940866092660086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10968421.post-1155371249814833132006-08-12T03:27:00.000-05:002006-08-12T03:27:00.000-05:00when olmert was voted in i was very hopeful that i...when olmert was voted in i was very hopeful that israel had matured one step further and that "an ordinary citizen" was now able to refresh our ranks and run our affairs..<BR/><BR/>however - as history now has it.. olmert gave as an omlette in the face..<BR/><BR/>he scrambled in every front.. whether against the settlers when he removed outposts or in fighting the HA..<BR/><BR/>i am vastly disappointed and hurt by the pain his failed tactics have caused my entire region..<BR/><BR/>a ceasefire has indeed been declared a requirement of the UN but i hope the implementation doesnt get cocked up..<BR/><BR/>we have a chance here guys..<BR/><BR/>lets not waste it..<BR/><BR/>wishing us all peace soon..<BR/><BR/>lirun<BR/>barcelona<BR/>www.emspeace.blogspot.com<BR/>nice plan loli..Lirunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16165940866092660086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10968421.post-1155369536692385982006-08-12T02:58:00.000-05:002006-08-12T02:58:00.000-05:00Israel responded to an unprovoked attack by Hizbul...<A HREF="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/story/0,,1839280,00.html" REL="nofollow">Israel responded to an unprovoked attack by Hizbullah, right? Wrong<BR/><BR/>The assault on Lebanon was premeditated - the soldiers' capture simply provided the excuse. It was also unnecessary<BR/><BR/>George Monbiot<BR/>Tuesday August 8, 2006<BR/>The Guardian</A>Ecumenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11847427156106725996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10968421.post-1155357794941456682006-08-11T23:43:00.000-05:002006-08-11T23:43:00.000-05:00This agreement unfortunately will not last longer ...This agreement unfortunately will not last longer than Olmert's term valued at about 3-4 months. If the resolution does not call for the immediate unconditional release of the Israeli soldiers; anyone who knows anything about Israeli politics knows that the Israelis will boot him out and bring someone who to them "will finish the job". That is the way it was after the Oslo accords when Netanyahu came to power. That is the way Sharon came to power after Barak. Whoever will be next will be ruthless because this will seem as a Hezbollah victory; something Israelis won't have and no matter what the costs are for both Israel and Lebanon.The Middle East News Addicthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04749242148575158828noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10968421.post-1155353535122927552006-08-11T22:32:00.000-05:002006-08-11T22:32:00.000-05:00Loli said: "Let go of who is right or wrong. In th...Loli said: <I>"Let go of who is right or wrong. In the bigger scheme of precious life and survival, this is a good resolution. YOu won't get anything better. It took them a month to get there. I am not willing to wait another month for relatively pointless demands."</I><BR/><BR/>This is pure gold. Exactly correct.<BR/>Some people (like Ghadab) need to get their heads out of the sand and let go of what is starting to look more and like childish rethoric.<BR/>This is the real world. Pragmatism is the modus operandi here. Shebaa Farms and the 3 prisoners are not an existential issue for Lebanon, contrary to what someone like Nasrallah would have you believe.Bad Vilbelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15105183588601083761noreply@blogger.com