Sunday, September 17, 2006

Time to go back to the basics

We need a Lebanese political process that yields political decisions that all Lebanese parties and individuals abide by. I do not care how sacred certain Lebanese believe their missions or causes to be. I do not even care how unjust they believe a certain situation is. The Primary rationale, or reason behind any action (a reason that supersedes all others) must be that it is a product of the Lebanese political process.

Lebanon. Lebanon. Lebanon.

What I have despised (and I mean utterly despised) about Hizballah, and its behavior over the past two years has been its arrogance, and its insistence on taking the entire country on a direction that it deems as right. The party (and its supporters) scoff at the Lebanese political system and pay lip-service to whatever existing processes exist for the country to reach some sort of consensus over the its fate. Their motto has been: it's my way or the highway, and they have the guns to give that phrase re-enforced meaning.

When a plural majority in Lebanon decides that it is time to disengage from a conflict, then Lebanon must disengage from that conflict. In such cases... disengaging would be the "Lebanese" thing to do. When the Lebanese political process (however imperfect it may be) yields a decision to change course, then not changing course would run contrary to "Lebanese interests." For all of its faults, Lebanon’s political process is the only mechanism currently available that can yield national decisions. That process manifests Lebanon on the political plain, just like how the Lebanese Army manifests Lebanon on the military one.

The natural inclination of individuals is to assume that notions such as "Lebanese interests" are set in stone - i.e. Lebanon's interests have always been to do this or do that. This assumption could not be farther from the truth. Notions such as national interests are subject to debates, discussions, and ultimately decisions (decisions that all parties must accept, and abide by).

Truly “Lebanese” interests can only be the product of such processes. In Lebanon the process remains at its infancy; however, it already favors pluralism. Such a bias is a good start. Lebanese should build on those foundations, if they would like to help bring a “Political Lebanon” to life.


Lirun said...

inshalla amen

Chas said...

I have lived through a similar situation where a relatively small number of people with guns and a strong and internally coherent philosophy were essentially able to "veto" any political progress.
Here is probably the single most important lesson I learned from that experience.
You must address the legitimate concerns that underpin support for the armed faction.
You must address them quickly, comprehensively, publicly and without restraint, giving the benefit of the doubt to them.
In other words the supporters must begin to see that there is an alternative and effective forum for their greivances.
It will take much longer for this realization to grow than will readily be tolerated by other factions, who will see it as "special treatment" and become resentful.
You must do this while being mindful of the philosophy that unites the activists within the armed faction. Respect that philosphy where respect is justified .. challenge it when it is not.
And you must maintain this program even when it appears useless or counterproductive.

Peace, Chas.

turtlecurls said...

What a succint & clear way to put such a power policitically effective move. The insight is much appreciated.


The disillusioned said...

Raja, Wein 3ayesh????

Lirun said...

where did dimitry go.. i miss his thoughts..


kachumbali said...

Let me be the vox diaboli for a while here, if only for the sake of the argument:

Hizballah is considered part of the Lebanese political spectrum - and rightly so.

Hizballah is considered to have acted contrary to Lebanese interests - I and at least 50% of the Lebanese agree.

Raja, you speak of Lebanese interests and a Lebanese political process, however speak of going back to the basics, so shouldn't the main question be:

What is Lebanon? What is it comprised of? What is its nature? Shouldn't 'going back to the basics' be a revision or expansion of Ta'ef?
Including Hizballah in the political spectrum can only come at the 'cost' (not meant in a necessarily negative way here) of changing Lebanon's nature forever.

Since 1943 Lebanon has been living partly a dream. There is no single Lebanese society, but Lebanon is split along sectarian lines. Of course, European and other powers immensely influenced and continue to influence Lebanon's history, but in my eyes this has been used as an excuse for Lebanese not to confront their own divisions and distribution of power along religious and sectarian faultlines. Hizballah and its so-called resistance is the best example for this.

Do you believe that the current political process with the current distribution of power can yield any positive results for all of Lebanon? A couple of months back angry mobs burned tires and marched through Beirut when Nasrallah was made fun of in a very, very restricted way...with the background of the recent war and the full responsibility of Hizballah of having started it, do you truely believe that just going along the current road will reap results? Shouldn't going back to the basics really touch on the basics of Lebanese self-definition? What about a possible federal structure? What's the comission on that doing nowadays? Wouldn't it be time for a bolder approach?

Hassan said...


"I do not even care how unjust they believe a certain situation is."

Does this also include the cause for The Truth?

Raja said...

yes it does, hassan. but i see where you're going, and you're right to point it out.

Raja said...


you're essentially asking for an overhaul of the entire system. Every single Lebanese, with the exception of the political elite who benefit from the political status quo will tell you that Lebanon's political process and democratic institutions are deeply flawed. However, there are two problems I see with raising this issue:

1. Whereas everyone may agree that the current system is flawed, there is no agreement on what is the better alternative. Some call for smaller electoral districts, others call for one national electoral district, and yet others call for a bicameral system with different electoral rules for each branch. Again, as I mentioned in my entry, there can be no "correct choice" no "Lebanese choice" unless it is arrived at through EXISTING political processes and institutions.

2. The second problem I see with challenging the most basic of issues is that doing so is a practice all too often reverted to by the losers of the existing process. Almost every coalition, party, or even individual politician who loses an election or performs poorly, all of a sudden, begins to question some very basic assumptions. They challenge the process that yielded those particular results, and in so doing, justify their own intrasigence.

Ultimately, I believe that we will arrive at a political process that is less fraught with problems than the one we are stuck with today. As long as Lebanese are willing to accept that such a mechanism can only be arrived at through deliberations and compromise, we will get there. Otherwise, the country will simply fracture under its own weight.

The disillusioned said...

Raja, we have been trying to "compromise" for decades. Sanioura has been trying since he came, and he is labeled as a flip-flopper at best and a zionist accomplice at worst.

You say we have to protect Lebanese interests, do you not realize that that is a very very abstract term. YOUR lebanese interests and mine are starkly different from those of the regular shiite in Bint Jbeil. Who decides what are the Lebanese interests?

Lebanon has already fractured... The system is flawed beyond repair.

kachumbali said...


thank you for your lengthy reply. However, again I must ask:

You talk about basics, going back to the basics, and I question the basis of the current Lebanese political system as being a dangerous illusion. Furthermore, you write that the loosers of elections/of the political process revert to questioning the basics in an unproductive manner. Allow me to take up that idea: aren't most Lebanese the loosers of the current political system (just look at the war, the politically motivated murders, the bombs all throughout 2005 and 2006), and shouldn't most Lebanese begin to seriously question the pace things are moving along with? Not just to raise more dust, but to seriously try and settle the dust already in the air? Instead I see

I remember that in some circles in Lebanon even just discussing a possible Federal system would immediately get you the label 'traitor' and make further discussion impossible.

I agree with you that a systemic change must be the product of the internal Lebanese political process, but until now I observe a national dialogue not worth the name, further eating away at the legitimacy of the feeble parliament and political institutions.

The fact alone that the territory of the Sheba'a farms, that measely little plot in the middle of nowhere, that this territorry can be used to justify armed militias and challenging the monopoly of power of the state, that these few sqkm are utilized to block or at least slow down a whole country, this fact makes a future outlook for Lebanon a truely grim one.

Deliberations and compromise are a precondition to a productive dialogue and exchange, but so far I also see a lot of shying away from the main issues, people busy securing their piece of the political cake in not touching the basics of the system. I see a shying away from the questioning one's identity and the direction the whole country and its politics should take. Don't get me wrong, I think that some admirable progress has been made especially in the last year, but then sadly a lot more issues have been left untouched and simmering.

Lirun said...

i think raja's point is that the people of lebanon decide when they elect their government once every so often and on and ongoing basis the elected representatives and the country's official institutions adminsiter these interests as they interpret them within their designated and delegated powers in accordance with your regime..

this is different from a bunch of militants deciding that their interpretation should prevail at the expense of the nationally declared agenda by the arsm of government and executing a path of their own liking in the face and to the denegration of the national bodies..

whats more - when such a renegade group is funded.. guided and serves as the protoge of another country - this is clearly a situation that needs attention..

i think raja is calling for the reinforcement and re-empowering of the bodies charged with lebanon's affairs and not those that seek to assume it by force under the guise of better recognition of your interests..

wishing you peace in any event


Lirun said...

oops my comment was aimed @ the disillusioned


Lirun said...

ok whoops.. on second read it looks like you are calling for reform..

in which case i join those who ask.. how? what do you envisage..

Raja said...

First: what decides lebanese interests is not your opinion, nor is it mine, or the opinion of the gal from bint jbeil. The process decides it. The process must define it; or else it is not Lebanese (however much all three of us would like to think our opinions represent Lebanon's best interests).

Second: the system is not "flawed beyond repair." Who are you to say it is flawed beyond repair? Who do you represent? On what basis do you make such a judgement? What kind of a system would you find suitable for Lebanon?

Raja said...


your profile says you are german. I know a little bit of german history - very shallow of course. From what I understand, there were many german princelings, i.e. state-lets. Ultimately, the most backwards (culturally and economically) of the statelets "united" Germany by systematically invading all the others. Do you consider this history to be a sound basis for Germany as a nation-state? From what I understand, Bavarians, today, still refer to Germans outside of their province deridingly as "Prusians" and identify themselves with Bavaria first, and then (grudgingly) Germany.

Germany as a nation-state today, is so secure because the national political process so overwhelms all of its competitors as a vehicle for setting the german agenda and distributing resources (irrespective of history or the validity of the most basic assumptions - e.g. germans willingly came together to form one great nation).

Another point: the problem in Lebanon is not delegation of authority. Lebanon, defacto is already a federal state. The overwhelming problem we face in Lebanon today, is: how do we decide on the "national agenda"? A de jure federal system will not help on that front - because even federations need to come to an agreement on at least certain basic issues at the national level.

And finally, you speak of our politicians, and chastize them for their selfish desire to take as large a peice of the political pie as possible. Thank you for having such high expectations of Lebanese politicians, but I wonder whether you have the same expectations for German politicians? I'm sorry for sounding a bit harsh here, but politicians are politicians - or rather humans are humans: and whether they do it consciously or not, they seek to accumulate power.

My ultimate point is that we all see a big mess in Lebanon, but maybe that mess has a little to do with our own high expectations. The process exists. It is not perfect (and not all "Formal"). It is usually stepped on, but it will always be there.

Bad Vilbel said...


Excellent post. I agree with your overall idea here. Specially the part about "Lebanese interests not being set in stone". Any country in the world (spare for some other dinosaurs like Syria) are nimble enough (for lack of a better word) to adjust their "national interests" based on pragmatical considerations and realism. We in the Arab world seem to have this notion of valuing rhetoric over realism. It amazes me, for example, that we still have to listen to our leaders in Lebanon, paying lip-service to antiquated ideologies like pan-arabism or the Palestinian cause, for example.

Having said all that, I do agree with the commenter who thinks our system is flawed beyond repair. There is a single point of failure, in my opinion, namely the idea that Lebanon should do things by concensus. While in an ideal world, that seems like a noble idea, the truth is that concensus makes for a weakened central government that's incapable of applying ANY policy. You simply cannot make EVERYONE happy (which is what concensus is all about).
The very notion of Democracy, like it or not, is the recognition that some groups (the minority) might be unhappy, but will have to abide by the decisions of the majority. Lebanon does not seem to grasp that concept over the years.
Our system of concensus has made instead for complete and utter paralysis and an inability to get ANYTHING done. I don't see that changing until a REAL system is put in place, and more importantly, until the mentality changes to where people grasp the concept of being in a system where they might not always get what they want.

kachumbali said...

Hello Raja,

again, thank you for the long response. I will try and answer in two steps, one concerning Germany and the way to German statehood (I actually have a short paper ready, one I wrote for a presentation at the USEK, if your interested, just email me), and the second one concerning Lebanon. You might want to skip to part 2 directly...

1. Germany was united from above, not by a popular revolution, in 1871 under Prussia. Prussia at the time was one of the foremost powers in Europe, industrially, militarily and scientifically. The German popular revolution of 1848 had failed, with disastrous effects for German liberals and democratic movement. However, a sentiment of belonging together, a sentiment of a German Nation, a Kulturnation, a sentiment of being German had developed throughout the centuries in the Holy Roman Empire of German Nation (~since 800) with a common language, customs, etc. The 18th century with its political ideas, and later the French revolution, sparked different ideological developments in Germany. The big two movements were Conservatism, backed by most aristocrats and other reactionaries, and Liberalism, backed by interellectuals, students, etc. The idea of one Germany, of a German nation transcending the many little statehoods, was further forged in the Napoleonic wars. My point here is that a German nation had been existant, but the concept was pretty much opposed to a Nationalism of French nature, i.e. French republicanism. Actually German authors and thinkers like Fichte and Herder inspired later Arab theoreticans trying to develop the notion of one Arab nation; certain main ideas of pan-arabism and baathism were inspired by these German thinkers of the period of Romanticism who tried to define what elements form a Nation and its character. The German Empire of 1871 found its end 1918 in the face of an imminent Allied invasion; the treaty deliminating the new German borders and defining Allied predominance over German politics, also blaming full responsibility for causing the war on Germany, was drawn mere miles from the conferences shaping the Middle East and creating Lebanon. The Weimar Republic was formed, and it was the first legitimate and democratic government in Germany also expressing the liberal and democratic ideas which had grown during the 19th century, and the first German republic clearly showerd that the unified territorial entity called Germany had a sound basis in all respects. Cultural differences, however, of course continued to exist, and still exist to the present day. In the same manner that the United Kingdom comprises several regions with their specific cultural backgrounds Germany consists of several 'Nations', same as in all major countries all over the world. And, it is true, Bavaria remains the only state not to have officially ratified our constitution, the Grundgesetz. Instead, they continued their discussions in 1949 till the necessary 3/4 majority of the other states had accepted the draft for it to become the new valid constitution. But this, practically, has no effect whatsoever on actual political life. Divisions in Germany run along Economic faultlines. One last word: the political process of the Federal Republic of Germany (i.e. since 1949) includes many different actors battling for influence, a Liberal society with a strong emphasis on personal freedom, independent judiciary and Media, the political parties, but also the 2 main churches, multiple business circles, labour unions, etc; all of this is Germany and forms the base for the modern German Nation state and the German way of life.

2. First of all, I believe that politicians around the world are pretty similar in wanting to maximize their political gain, sometimes at horrendous costs for the public good. But in my opinion Lebanon, and the Middle East in general, but let's stay with Lebanon; Lebanon's politics are incredibly centered on notions of personal leadership at the cost of supra-personal institutions which could transcend the individual and guarantee the funtioning of the state regardless of personality and competence of a Political leader. This is not something new, but at the base of Lebanese society, regardless of religious affiliation, resulting in sclerotic political institutions. These institutions, and most importantly, trust in these institutions have to grow over time. But with this background, I believe that the personality and integrity of political leaders in Lebanon is more important for the common good than in other countries where an intact state and an independent judiciary can act as a self-governing instance and correct personal inadequacies.

3. I agree with you on the point of Lebanon already de-facto being a Federal state, but wouldn't it be time to aknowledge this fact and adapt the state and political institutions? If you want to go back to the basics you would have to adress the question of Lebanese reality, and the widening gap between the de jure and the de facto system. I am aware that this is not possible in the 'European' sense, i.e. due to the many facettes of the Lebanese political landscape it is illusionary to attempt to completely capture all interests in a document, and more will always have to be left open to discussion and negotiation than in other countries. In my eyes, and of course this is only an outside perspective, you could start by a new population cencus to determine the true weight of each faction, at least relatively speaking. But then this would probably only lead to more conflict. But adressing the above mentioned widening gap between reality and theory concerning Lebanese politics can only benefit the greater good of all Lebanese.

4. As you can see, I agree with you that there is definitely a political process going on, and that there are positive signals all over Lebanon. The National Dialogue, even if flawed, still contained positive results. The public uproar at the assassinations last year show that large parts of the society are not willing to accept such barbaric methods and cannot and will not be silenced. I just hope that you will manage to define a National Agenda containing a national interest as soon as possible, because the forces not interested in the open and multireligious and multicultural nature of Lebanon do not move in the restrictive frame of a Lebanese state, as the recent war showed.

programmer craig said...

Why are you guys talking about Germany, or any other Europeans, as if whatever EUropeans did might work for you?

Hezbollah will be your death. You're attempting to bargain with the devil.

I said it a year and a half ago on this blog, and I said it again last December in this thread:

A Realist Look - Lebanon Cornered

You guys should listen to me. I am the infamous Programmer Craig. And also I'm psychic. And also I let Hani G live long enough that he could realize I was right all along and he was an idiot. I'm nice that way. Kinda pseudo-magnanimous.

kachumbali said...

If you want to understand yourself and what you face, stop looking at your fingernails and start looking out of the window. It would be stupid not look to other places like Germany (Federalism) or India (Religious co-existance with democratic structures) if there might be solutions offered. This is true for any country, anywhere, not just for Lebanon.

Lirun said...

this is becoming very abstract.. would be keen to hear some more concrete thoughts on how you guys think your country should evolve as of this point..

my personal preference being of course that it be a manner that is conducive to regional stability and peace..


Raja said...

bad vilbel,

you're wrong about the political process. Lebanon's formal political process requires simple majorities. informal political "customs" (for lack of a better term) require plural majorities, and preferably consensus-based decisions. Hizballah raised a huge stink when the cabinet voted on certain issues, but the votes went through, and Hizballah eventually accepted them. That precedent indicates that the formal processes do work, and it is only a matter of the politicians deciding to use them! The precedent also points to the biggest danger: that parties within the system refuse to accept the output of the process, and in doing so, challenge its very legitimacy. What I say to these people is: the process ain't perfect, and definitely needs improvement; but challenging its legitimacy and trying to impose your will outside of it is a recipe for disaster.


thanks for the long response. you definitely know a lot about lebanon and I appreciate your ideas - yalla, go get that A380 up and flying!

Bad Vilbel said...


You make a good point. I did not differentiate between the "customs" and the actual political process as it is defined in our constitution.

However, I would argue that in reality, what is applied today is the customs, almost to the point of where the customs have BECOME the process.

Hell, our constitution doesn't stipulate that our President should be Maronite. But we all know that he is.

So to me, talking about abstract "processes" that no one even remembers is kinda moot. I'm far more interested in dealing with the "customs". And in that sense, our leaders need to stop trying to accomodate everyone in the name of the "make everyone happy" concensus custom, and start ruling through the rule of the majority, with Lebanon's national interests at heart (as opposed to various "customary" causes and ideals, such as pan-arabism, for example).

why-discuss said...

Yes, let's go the basics! A census is the basics of the basics in a democratic systemm, isn't?
Elect the president as it is in most countries with a popular vote, that is another basics!
Eliminate the sectarian political attribution Another basics!
The only trouble is that christians will discover that they are totally outnumbered and as it is a DEMOCRATIC system, they will loose the attributed political power they were given by the french. And sunnis will find themselves overwhelmed by the Shia and equally loose their political power YES! let's go to the basics!

Chas said...

It is perfectly legitimate for a democratic system to offer constitutional garauntees to minority populations. This avoids the permanent disenfranchisement of any particular group.
Lebanon is complex because no one group has a majority.
The problem with this system is that it dicourages cross party voting and leads to a stagnant political system where representatives of factions are assured of a voice without genuine competition on merit.
Perhaps this could be overcome by having a two chamber system with one chamber elected by a system of proportional representation?
But this is not the time to talk about constitutional change though.
I agree with Raja that any chage must be brought about through the current system and not outside it. Whatever its faults it is the only legitimate expression of Lebanese political will.

Peace, Chas.

Raja said...

why discuss, thanks for your recomendation. Now why don't you go to Lebanon and help realize it?

There is a difference between plural majorities and homogenous majorities. And Lebanon, if anything, is defined by plurality. You should get that through your skull.

turtlecurls said...

Hi, I'll add a couple thoughts. They aren't specific solutions, but may spark ideas --

- Bad Vilbil talked about how in a democracy the minority sometimes has to tolerate the majority decision. While true, another aspect of elected officials is that sometimes they support a minority opinion & the majority has to put up with it. This is especially true in foreign policy & other areas where they are more knowledgeable than most.

- What makes the pluracy in the U.S. work includes the early learning (brainwashing) about the virtues of freedom & the myths (even when true) of how our country was formed to support freedoms and how especially great it is to have all this opportunity. Rhetoric does help make individuals & groups more supportive of the whole & of patriotrism than they would be otherwise. It's not until later that we find out that not everything was so very good all the time.

- The rallying cry at the moment seems to be sovernity & the self-control of it. Legistation to limit representative's behavior outside of gv't may be needed. In the U.S. Nasralla would be going to jail. He acted outside the checks & balances of the democracy regardless of his reasons. Lebanon seems to still be deciding who's in charge, the individual groups, or the nation. Even if legislation isn't passed, a bringing up & discussion of it in the legislature can create that "rhetoric" of "nation" that's needed.

(It has also crossed my mine with Bush that the U.S. needs more control over it's executive branch's foreign policy behaviour. There's been too many instances of decisions made behind closed doors that supported the wrong g'vts for the wrong reasons. I don't know how long it will take for americans to wake up to that fully, but it's getting hot here.)

Very interesting & informative blogs.


kachumbali said...

From a sytemic point of view, Lebanon has one problem:

The Lebanese constitution was heavily influenced by the French one, and the Lebanese image of statehood, which at that time was more Maronite than anything else, also was under the influence of French concepts and ideas.

Now, the French have a tradition of founding new Republics, and they currently have a hybrid system between a parliamentary and a presidential democracy, difficult to implement and very 'French'.

Maybe it would be time to look at Switzerland. Of course you can never just transfer a political system from one country to another, as the political culture is always the base and is the soul, for the lack of a better term, of each state. For instance, Ethiopia, believe it or not, has one of the most modern constitutions world-wride, with the whole 9 yards in protection of minorities, religious respect, individual freedoms, etc. But Ethipia is not exactly a shining beacon of democratic values right now...Somalia is a similar case, but practically the country stopped existing in 1991.

The Swiss have a centuries old tradition of a consensus-based democracy, although women weren't allowed to vote until the 1970s...but the basic ideas are there...

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Raja said...


those articles were not relevant to this entry. invite us to your blog, where we can read whatever it is you would like to bring to our attention.


Lirun said...

a beirut based friend of mine son of a muslim man and christian lady tried to convince me that many "beiruters" (not sure what the name is) are of mixed heritage and that it is rapidly becoming irrelevant.. would love the thoughts of people on this forum

why-discuss said...

There is a difference between plural majorities and homogenous majorities. And Lebanon, if anything, is defined by plurality. You should get that through your skull.
Raja this concept looks blur to me. Plural majorities?? please be more specific, what are the plural majorities in Lebanon if there is no census since the 50'
Sorry, I am just a lebanese citizen with not much connections with any of the plural majoroities..

thepoetryman said...

I can't really add to the conversation regarding what Lebanon needs or what path it should take to achieve its objectives....But my question stems from the constant spelling of **Hezbollah** as *Hizballah*... Isn't that considered derogatory? Just curious since you are seeking to, at the least, come to a consensus within Lebanon which would include a large number of Hezbollah, no?

Bad Vilbel said...

Nothing derogatory about "Hizballah". That's how it's pronounced in "spoken" Lebanese.

The "proper" (i.e. written) version would probably be spelled Hizbullah.

Hezbollah is actually pretty much wrong. But that's what the "western" media uses for the most part.

Fearless said...

Is this your enemy?

The Moslem-Arab disease

." Les racines de cette maladie Musulmane sont une haine pour l'Occident et Israël pour les crimes d'être une réussite, démocratique et tolérante. Et au coeur de cette maladie est l'haine de soi. Haine de soi pour le 1.000 ans d'échec de la culture musulmane arabe. L'incapacité de concurrencer l'occident ou se reformée. La faillite absolue de la cause palestinienne -- en dépit des milliards et des milliards de dollars versé en cijordanie et a Gaza par l'Europe, le Japon, Israël et les Etats-Unis et les Nations Unis, dont le but unique était d'aider ces personnes consommés dans leurs propres poisons émotifs. L'argent naturellement a été volé en transit par leurs chefs corrompus et meurtriers qui ont enterré leur butin dans des comptes bancaires suisses ou l'avaient utilisé pour acheter des armes de moyens de meurtre en masse. La destruction, est la seule contribution que les Arabes palestiniens ont apportée au monde depuis que leurs aspirations nationales étaient d'abord annoncé il y a un demi-siècle.

Quand vous déclarez la guerre vous devez souffrir les conséquences.

Les Arabes Israéliens étaient 150.000 en 1948 il sont 1.5 million soit 20% de la population. Ils jouissent d'un niveau de vie plus élevé que ses frères Arabes dans les pays voisins. Assurance maladie, allocations familiales et 10 membres dans le Parlement.

Il est vrai non tous les musulmans ne sont pas des terroristes mais la plupart des terroristes sont des musulmans.

Il est temps d'être Churchillien et indiquer clairement les conséquences l'ordre du jour de Palestiniens ira vers l'arrière et s'ils ne changent pas leur politique de meurtre et de destruction d'Israël et ne joignent pas finalement le monde des nations civilisées qui préparent leurs enfants pour une vie productive et pas pour la mort et la haine.
Il s'avère que les Palestiniens ont choisi un groupe de terroristes honteux pour courir leur pays.

C’est une partie, Hamas, qui réclame l’oblitération de l’état juif (dans tant de mots) et le massacre des juifs parce qu’ils sont juifs. Ils citent la malédiction coranique des juifs comme justification les stimulant à assassiner des juifs. Hamas est un groupe des fanatiques islamiques qui font partie du Djihad global contre les Etats-Unis et l’Occident, dont le héros est Osama bin Laden. Hamas était le plus grand défenseur étranger de Saddam Hussein. Un nombre record, des palestiniens se sont joints en masse l’axe du mal. Ils sont les ennemis avoués des valeurs civilisées des juifs, de l’Occident, et devraient être traités en tant que tels.

On évite de les reprocher pour leur chois erroné. Il s y sont pour rien. Ce toujours le complot des autres. Il n'est plus possible de prendre au sérieux aucune des parties palestiniennes. Tout le monde parle de l'union nationale, des intérêts du peuple palestinien et d'empêcher le sang de couler. En même temps, aucune des parties n'hésite à poignarder l'autre.

Apres avoir défendus pendant 60 ans la formation d'un état terroriste dans la région, les états arabes goûtent a pressent a leur propre remède qu'ils avaient amoureusement concocte a l'intention d'Israël. C'est une histoire d'empoisonneur empoisonné.
Bizarrement, personne ne semble mettre en exergue une réalité surprenante: en dépit des centaines de milliards de dollars qu'ils ont reçu depuis le début du prétendu processus de "paix", les arabes ont été incapables de mettre sur pied une économie fonctionnelle à même de subvenir aux besoins des populations. En effet, les conséquences de l'arrêt des subsides occidentaux aux arabes le démontre et démontre aussi que ces subsides n'ont pas servi à développer l'économie mais uniquement à enrichir les terroristes et leur donner les moyens financiers de continuer leur Jihad.

On nous raconte que l'Islam n'a rien à faire avec le terrorisme, du quelle coïncidence incroyable qui les terroristes sanglants, qui recrutent les bombardiers -suicide sont profondément religieux. Pour envoyer à la boucherie des innocents dans le nom d'Allah, ils seraient récompensés avec une victoire renversante par les électeurs Islamiques palestiniens.
Pour les Arabes et les Musulmans il est parfaitement acceptable d'offenser le Christianisme et le Judaïsme. Il suffit voir les caricatures virulentes, plaines de haine et de mépris Pas de limite imposée sur leur diffamation, profanation et manque de respect.
Les musulmans aurait été pris plus sérieusement si ils étaient moins de hypocrite et sélectif dans leur attitudes. Ils ne condamnaient jamais le massacre sauvage de leurs frères en Irak ou en Algérie et de Damour a Darfour.
Les Etats arabes n’ont fait que régresser. En fait, le sort des masses arabes est pire qu’il ne l’était lorsqu’elles se trouvaient sous domination anglaise ou française. Combien de prix Nobel l’Islam a-t-il produits ? Combien de découvertes pouvant améliorer le sort de l’humanité lui devons-nous ? Pratiquement zéro ! Combien d’Einstein, de Freud, de Salk, de Rubinstein ? Zéro ! Après avoir été une civilisation brillante, qui a donné au monde l’algèbre et le concept du zéro, l’Islam vous a plongés dans le fanatisme, l’illettrisme, la Pauvreté et la corruption, et il voudriez entraîner le monde dans cet abîme.

Par contre:

Israel (new)

Israel, the 100th smallest country, with less than 1/1000th of the world's population, can make claim to the following:

An Israeli ornithologist is utilizing barn owls to rid large cities of rodent problems.

An Israeli company has developed a device that helps nurses locate those hard-to-find veins.

Israeli actress Hanna Laslo took home the "Best Actress" award at the 2005 Cannes Film Festival this year for her performance in Amos Gitai's "Free Zone."

An Israeli system to help dyslexic readers is being used throughout the US and Europe.

Voice over internet protocol (VoIP) technology was pioneered in Israel.

The Israeli women's national flag football team won the largest and most important open football tournament in Europe in 2005.

An Israeli FDA-approved device - the VelaSmooth - reduces the appearance of cellulite.

Israeli laser technology is powering the latest hair removal devices on the American market.

Intel's new multi-core processor was completely developed at its facilities in Israel.

An Israeli doctor headed the Merck team that developed a vaccine against cervical cancer.

Prof. Robert Aumann is the fourth Israeli in the last four years to win a Nobel prize.

Israel's premier basketball team Maccabi Tel Aviv beat the Toronto Raptors in an exhibition game in 2005.

AirTrain JFK - the 8.1-mile light rail labrynthe that connects JFK Airport to New York City's mass transit - is protected by the Israeli-developed Nextiva surveillance system.

Bill Gates called Israel a major player in the high tech world.

The Weizmann Institute of Science has been voted the best university in the world for life scientists to conduct research.

An Israeli 'super-sensor' has been installed in Sealy mattresses to control snoring problems.

Hawaiian singer Don Ho underwent an Israeli-developed stem cell treatment to strengthen his heart.

Israeli company Ultrashape has developed a safe replacement for liposuction - a unique new body-contouring device that "blasts" unwanted fat from the body.

Israeli researchers have discovered the molecular trigger that causes psoriasis.

A 100-member Israeli delegation flew to Kenya in January, 2006 to rescue survivors of a building collapse.

Israeli research has shown that dancers display consistent differences from the general population in two key genes.

Israeli research shows that we can find out more about what is buried beneath the earth's surface by launching a satellite into the sky.

An Israeli company has unveiled a blood test that via the telephone diagnoses
heart attacks.

The Israeli-developed Ex-Press shunt is providing relief for American glaucoma sufferers.

An Israeli research team has found that the combination of electrical stimulation
and chemotherapy makes cancerous metastases disappear.

Israel has designed the first flight system to protect passenger and freighter
aircraft against missile attack.

Jewish and Arab students at Hebrew University participate in the 'Billy Crystal Workshops - Peace Through the Performing Arts' project.

Israel has the highest ratio of university degrees to the population in the world.

Israel produces more scientific papers per capita than any other nation by a large margin - 109 per 10,000 people - as well as one of the highest percapita rates of patents filed.

In proportion to its population, Israel has the largest number of startup companies in the world. In absolute terms, Israel has the largest number of startup companies than any other country in the world, except the US (3,500 companies mostly in hi-tech).

Israel is ranked #2 in the world for venture capital funds right behind the US.

Israel has the highest average living standards in the Middle East. The per capita income in 2000 was over $17,500, exceeding that of the UK.

Israel's $100 billion economy is larger than all of its immediate neighbors combined.

On a per capita basis, Israel has the largest number of biotech start-ups.

Israel has the largest raptor migration in the world, with hundreds of thousands of African birds of prey crossing as they fan out into Asia.

Twenty-four percent of Israel's workforce holds university degrees - ranking third in the industrialized world, after the United States and Holland - and 12 percent hold advanced degrees.

Israel is the only liberal democracy in the Middle East.

In 1984 and 1991, Israel airlifted a total of 22,000 Ethiopian Jews at risk in Ethiopia to safety in Israel.

When Gold Meir was elected Prime Minister of Israel in 1969, she became the world's second elected female leader in modern times.

When the U.S. Embassy in Nairobi, Kenya was bombed in 1998, Israeli rescue teams were on the scene within a day - and saved three victims from the rubble.

Israel has the third highest rate of entrepreneurship - and the highest rate among women and among people over 55 - in the world.

Relative to its population, Israel is the largest immigrant-absorbing nation on earth. Immigrants come in search of democracy, religious freedom, and economic opportunity.

Israel was the first nation in the world to adopt the Kimberly process, an international standard that certifies diamonds as "conflict free."

According to industry officials, Israel designed the airline industry's most impenetrable flight security. U.S. officials now look to Israel for advice on how to handle airborne security threats.

Israel's Maccabi basketball team won the European championships in 2001.

Israeli tennis player Anna Smashnova is the 15th ranked female player in the world.

Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers was produced by Haim Saban, an Israeli whose family fled persecution in Egypt.

Israel has the world's second highest per capita of new books.

Israel is the only country in the world that entered the 21st century with a net gain in its number of trees.

Israel has more museums per capita than any other country.

Israel has two official languages: Hebrew and Arabic.

Israeli scientists developed the first fully computerized, no-radiation, diagnostic instrumentation for breast cancer.

An Israeli company developed a computerized system for ensuring proper administration of medications, thus removing human error from medical treatment. Every year in U.S. hospitals 7,000 patients die from treatment mistakes.

Israel's Given Imaging developed the first ingestible video camera, so small it fits inside a pill. Used the view the small intestine from the inside, the camera helps doctors diagnose cancer and digestive disorders.

Researchers in Israel developed a new device that directly helps the heart pump blood, an innovation with the potential to save lives among those with congestive heart failure. The new device is synchronized with the heart's mechanical operations through a sophisticated system of sensors.

With more than 3,000 high-tech companies and start-ups, Israel has the highest concentration of hi-tech companies in the world (apart from the Silicon Valley).

In response to serious water shortages, Israeli engineers and agriculturalists developed a revolutionary drip irrigation system to minimize the amount of water used to grow crops.

Israel has the highest percentage in the world of home computers per capita.

Israel leads the world in the number of scientists and technicians in the workforce, with 145 per 10,000, as opposed to 85 in the U.S., over 70 in Japan, and less than 60 in Germany. With over 25% of its work force employed in technical professions. Israel places first in this category as well.

The cell phone was developed in Israel by Motorola, which has its largest development center in Israel.

Most of the Windows NT operating system was developed by Microsoft-Israel.

The Pentium MMX Chip technology was designed in Israel at Intel.

Voice mail technology was developed in Israel.

Both Microsoft and Cisco built their only R&D facilities outside the US in Israel.

The technology for AOL Instant Messenger was developed in 1996 by four young Israelis.

A new acne treatment developed in Israel, the ClearLight device, produces a high-intensity, ultraviolet-light-free, narrow-band blue light that causes acne bacteria to self-destruct - all without damaging surroundings skin or tissue.

An Israeli company was the first to develop and install a large-scale solar-powered and fully functional electricity generating plant, in southern California's Mojave desert.

The first PC anti-virus software was developed in Israel in 1979.

Christopher Reeve called Israel the "world center" for research on paralysis treatment.

That Israel is becoming integrally involved in helping to reshape the post-war Iraqi landscape?

Israeli researchers are playing an important role in identifying a defective gene that causes a rare and usually fatal disease in Arab infants.

An Israeli company has been given a U.S. grant to develop an anti-smallpox first aid treatment kit.

The top women's magazine in the world - Cosmopolitan - is launching a Hebrew version in Israel?

An Israeli company M-Systems was the first to patent and introduce key chain storage.

Israeli microbiologists have developed the first passive vaccine against the mosquito-borne West Nile virus.

A team of Israeli and US researchers has designed a watermelon-picking robot endowed with artificial vision to do the job of harvesting.

Israeli researchers are using video games to investigate future treatments for memory disorders such as Alzheimer's disease.

An Israeli company has developed sensors that pick up signs of stress in plants.

Israeli medical researchers have shown that lycopene - the red pigment found in tomatoes - lowers blood pressure.

A small Israel company called Lenslet has developed a revolutionary electro-optic processor which operates one thousand times faster than any known Digital Signal Processor.

Israeli stem-cell technology is being used in the U.S. to regenerate heart tissue.

An Israeli company has developed a device that could enable millions of American diabetics to painlessly inject themselves with insulin.

An Israeli company is providing the technology behind an American all-electric bus for urban use.

An Israeli medical delegation from the 'Save a Child's Heart' project recently spent two weeks in China performing open heart surgery on children.

Israeli-developed security precautions have been adopted in Maryland and Washington.

Scientists in Israel have used strands of DNA to create tiny transistors that can literally build themselves.

A week-old Iraqi infant underwent an emergency operation in Israel to correct a congenital heart defect.

A new generation of "Sesame Street" programs aimed at teaching tolerance is being produced and broadcast in Israel, Jordan, and in the Palestinian Authority.

Some 500 million birds representing 300 species migrate across Israel's skies twice a year in the autumn and spring along the Great Valley Rift.

Israeli research shows that a tonsillectomy could be the key solving sleep apnea in children.

An Israeli company has developed a new device for monitoring coronary disease that will be integrated into future generation of cellphones.

An Israeli-developed alogrithm enabled NASA to transmit images from Mars.

An Israeli has invented a 'bone glue' that will reduce the need for bone transplants and heal bone defects caused by cancer.

An Israeli team will compete in the Women's International Flag Football Championships.

Israeli researchers have developed a 'bone glue' that respectively stimulate speedy bone and cartilage repair, and enable faster and improved healing of injuries.

Research by three scientists from the Haifa Technion made the transmission of video pictures Video transmissions from Mars by the NASA explorer "Spirit" have been made possible thanks to a unique algorithm developed by Technion graduates.

A joint Israeli-Palestinian expedition recently scaled a peak in Antarctica in the name of coexistence.

Over 50 million Israeli flowers were sent to Europe for sale on Valentine's Day.

The families of the Columbia shuttle astronauts are going to be the Israeli government's guests on a week long visit in March.

Israeli researchers have found a connection between sleep apnea and impotence.

Israel, American and Canadian researchers are working together to develop nanotech-based solutions to the water shortage in the Middle East.

The founder of the Cancer Prevention and Wellness Program at New York's prestigious Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center is Israeli.

Between 150 to 200 multinational clinical trials are regularly taking place in Israel.

An Israeli company is the world's leading sleep disorder sensors manufacturer.

Israeli biologists have successfully managed, for the first time, to prepare the flowering of the "Madonna Lily" - a rare white Easter lily - in time for Easter.

Over 65,000 patients worldwide have swallowed the M2A capsule, the incredible 'camera in a capsule' technology developed by Israel's Given Imaging.

Israel hosts IBM's largest R&D facilities outside the United States.

Israeli researchers have developed an engineless, nano-RPV (remote piloted vehicle).

Israeli researchers are successfully using magnets to treat post-traumatic stress disorder.

Israeli scientists have created a DNA nano-computer that not only detects cancer, but also releases drugs to treat the disease.

Tel Aviv has been named a UNESCO World Heritage Site.

The U.S. Marines in Iraq are using an Israel-developed hand-held computer for communication purposes.

Israel engineers are behind the development of the largest communications router in the world, launched by Cisco.

An Israeli doctor claims that he has succeeded in developing a female equivalent to Viagra called Sheagra.

An Israeli company - Evogene - is developing cotton plants that are resistant to adverse salinity conditions and drought.

An Israeli company has developed the world's first jellyfish repellent.

Israel has helped farmers in Niger develop a horticultural production system called the African Market Garden (AMG).

Jerusalem hosted an international gay rights parade World Pride in 2005.

A newly developed Israeli cooking oil is capable of breaking up blood fats such as cholesterol.

Israeli scientists have alleviated Parkinson's-like symptoms in rats.

Israeli scientists are developing a nose drop that will provide a five-year flu vaccine.

Israeli researchers have solved the mystery of Lenin's death.

An Israeli vaccine for West Nile virus is being tested in the U.S.

Israeli scientists have discovered how to turn mismatched cells into cancer fighters.

Over 20 Israeli companies provided security and services for the 2004 Olympic games in Athens.

Israeli scientists have shown that hypnotism doubles the chances of success of in vitro fertilization.

An Israeli two-flush system can save Americans billions of gallons of water a year.

A group of 40 American sheriffs were in Israel last week to learn about Israeli counter-terrorism techniques.

An Israeli-developed device can painlessly administer medications through microscopic pores in the skin.

Israeli air force pilot technology is being used to train American college basketball players.

Israeli researchers have shown that a daily dosage of Vitamin E is effective in helping to regain hearing loss.

Israeli researchers have created a 'biological pacemaker' which corrects faulty heart rhythms when injected into the failing hearts of pigs.

Two Israelis have won the 2004 Nobel Prize for Chemistry for their groundbreaking work in cancer research.

An Israeli physicist-turned-inventor has developed the world's first air-conditioned motorcycle.

Israeli researchers have proven that Prozac can improve the effectiveness of chemotherapy.

An Israeli-developed elderberry extract is one of America's best-selling flu prevention medicines.

Millions of American youngsters will soon be able to surf safely in Internet chat rooms thanks to Israeli technology.

Children injured in the school siege in Beslan, Russia in 2004 were able to convalesce at an Israeli coastal resort in Ashkelon - at the invitation of that city's mayor.

An Israeli company has developed a simple blood test that distinguishes between mild and more severe cases of MS.

Israeli scientists have discovered the cause of chronic bad breath and a painless solution.

Israeli technology is behind the successful testing of in-flight cell phone use.

Israeli research has found that citrus oils may hold the key for asthma treatment.

An Israeli study has shown that anger may trigger strokes.

An Israeli company - Patus Ltd. - has donated thousands of its OdorScreen olfactory gel product to counter the crippling odors faced by on-scene Tsunami disaster workers.

An Israeli company has developed a nano-lubricant that one day could mean the end of changing your car oil.

A young Israeli scientist was among those chosen as an example of carrying on the work of Albert Einstein 100 years later.

Intel has sold more than $5 billion worth of the Israeli-developed Centrino chipsets since they were introduced in March 2003.

Qui oserai un départ de "la pensée unique' en critiquant le Rais ou le Monarque. Ou ça ? En Syrie, en Egypte chez les Palestiniens?

Regardez l'index de corruption dans les pays Arabes. Ou chez les Palestiniens.
La force morale d'Israël ce la crique permanente:
Comme le disait Voltaire: "Je hais vos idées mais je suis prêt à mourir pour que vous puissiez les exprimer".

Quel merveille cet pays Israël avec la liberté d’Expression qui existe nul part dans le monde Arabo -Musulman.
Je connais un projet impérialiste Musulman qui s'appelle le Califat خليفة.

Si la religion est "L'Opium du peuple" alors l'Islam extrémiste est son "Krak"!!! Ou son LSD!!!.

Chas said...

All that may be true, but the Irish can still drink them under the table!
'hic' Chas )

Shmulik said...


I'm sorry but with our new immigrants from the former soviet union, lack of drinking is not a problem anymore!! Vodka for everyone!!

Chas said...


cheers mate :)

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