Saturday, August 19, 2006

Hizballah burrying dead comrades


Politics, and personal issues, aside.... You've got to give it to them. They put up quite a fight!

26 comments:

mnuez said...

WTF?!?!?!?!!!!!!


Say it aint so.

Reports are coming in of Israel having conducting some aerial assault against Hezbollah.

If this is in fact true there are only two possibilities.

A) For some reason this assault was a necessary and fine idea (like what if we were destroying a suitcase nuke? or bombing from the left so as to distract the captors of our soldiers and then grab them to safety from the right?). Of course the odds of this are about 1 in 1000.

B) EHUD OLMERT IS AN EVIL GODDAMNED SON OF A BITCH!!!!!!!

Yeah, maybe this was technically legal by the UN agreement (or not) but that makes no difference at all. If in fact what's being reported as an IDF assault is true, and it's nothing more than the same type of assaults that Israel conducted uselessly for a month, then it's ridiculous and insane to do this. It accomplishes nothing good and a tremendous amount of evil in the eyes of the world and makes Israel look so bad so as to be almost unjustifiable by her friends. It gives Hizballah and Syria and Iran the opportunity to look like they're "responding" and ---- oh fuck. it's just sick.

And WHY exactly would shit-head Olmert do such a thing? Cynical, lying, careerist, father-of-draftdodgers, selfish Olmert? Because right now everyone in Israel wants his head. They want him out of the prime minister's chair yesterday and preferably in prison. And so he needs some sort of distraction. He needs to create a crisis, recreate a war. What a bastard!

Now don't get me wrong. If Menachem Begin were to come back from the dead (as the man that he was bfeore his wife took ill and died - say, as he was in his thirties) and declared a war unto victory against Hezbollah, I would support it wholeheartedly and would be honored to serve under him in that war. Getting rid of Nazis is always a fine thing to do. But Olmert isn't getting rid of anything!! If in fact these reports of an unprovoked Israeli attack are true then it's nothing but Olmert and Peretz trying to retain the honor and power that they now have. They're not killing the rabid dog but kicking it so that it'll come after the schoolchildren and they can get a lot of press by then fighting said dog and "protecting" the children.

I hate measly politicians so much. I so so so so so hate them. Careerist politicians are the lowest of the low and should be jailed for their efforts.

(If in fact, etc. etc. . .) then God Damn Olmert.

mnuez said...

Oops.

Owing to some unaccepted HTML, when I deleted and re-copied my comment here, the beginning went missing.

It's important though.

Here's the preamble:



If you'd say the same for any ole bunch of folk who purposely bomb civilians (and only civilians - did I mention purposely?) just because they're outnumbered then I guess you could say it here too. Oh, and just for a bit of a reality check, - Israel wasn't defeated by their inability to be too strong but by their inability to be weak enough. Had Israel have wanted to destroy Hizballaha regardless of the cost to (non-Israeli) innocents, we could have nuked the whole country. Israel was defeated by not being able to precisely kill all the Hizballah assholes without killing too many other people - something, I might add, that no other army in history ever gave a shit about.

Israel was defeated by its own morality.

That said...

JoseyWales said...

mnuez,

Relevance? Next time why not post your whole blog in the comment section?

Raja,

I'll give you that they are deluded fascists. We'll never get rid of them as long as non-HA people keep apologizing for them:

"Yes but they fought", "yes but they are paying people's rent" etc.

They are, and have been, taking the country to totalitarian HELL.

The Middle East News Addict said...

Only now will we start seeing how many Lebanese of the claimed 900 lives lost in Lebanon were Hezbollah. Hezbollah claimed 2-3 IDF claims 200. So far numbers seem to gravitate to IDF numbers

francois said...

to make the story short, Hezbollah said 70 of their fighters died during the conflict.

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Andrey said...

liona, IDF brought 2 HA men back from the operation, so you can't realy call it failed (although no one knows what were the aims). The point is - no body is telling true all the time, you have to check everything. Remember how you told that IDF took lebanese soldiers as hostages in Marj-Ayun?

Andrey said...

liona,
about the kidnaping, they are now denying it http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3293123,00.html
and the injured soldier that died was injured in west bank.

Andrey said...

Here is an optimistic article, it was translated by babylon, so it's not really fluent.
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Vigilance and great alertness in the administration in Washington towards tuesday ' 22.8, the day in wich according to the Shiite tradition Allah appointed the prophet Mohammed to be his messenger, and according to the sunni tradition the prophet Mohammed rose to the heavens to the godly expedition from the temple mount in Jerusalem while he is a ridding on the horse flash el burak, ' the lightning ', and Jerusalem and the world was illuminated in entirety godly strong light. Our military intel. sources say that report had arrived to the American intelligence and are defined as ' from most reliable sources ', that the ruler of Iran Haitolla Ali Haminai received hasgot military intel. report which is written by one of main the military intel. analyzers in the council to the national iranian security, that on tuesday ' will coincide in Jerusalem mega attack, which in his words will kill Israelis, Arabs, and created quarrel. In the other words speaking on attack that will hurt also in the old city and in it's eastern neighborhoodss of Jerusalem. In
the administration is not origins from rule of possibility because huge attack can coincide also in the central western city differently. Our sources say that Israelis refuse to listen and take any preperations.
The military intel. iranian information talks on attack which want ' to obtain effect of the godly light ' that the took place in Jerusalem by the year of 632 the estimation of the Iranian intelligence, that she does not mark who the factor that will execute this attack, but she will not neglect the possibility that it will be unconventional attack , and as a result from attack like this Israel and United States will open immediately in the airy offensive and an offensive of missiles on Tehran and on main iranian cities, and on installations of the nucleus the Iranians. Because the Iranian leadership takes this information in seriosly, they ordered to start immediately on 18.8 the huge iranian maneuver named "Zolpagar sword" , in him participants 12 Iranian devisions, including very big forces of special forces and the Iranian airforce. Zolpagar , is the wonderful sword of the Imam Ali. The intention is to prepare the Iranian army to the israeli American offensive. The maneuver is planned so that in tuesday ', when if according to the information will occur Mega - attack, there will be the peak of the exercise in the capital Tehran, so that capital of Iran will be ready to promote face of the attack.
Our military intel. sources say that tuesday ' 22.8 is also the day of the delivery of the official answer of Iran to the package of incentives of the west for the sake of stopping its nuclear programs. A few months ago Iran informed that it will deliver its answer on day 22 in August and not previously. The European pressure is American in an attempt to advance the answer did not help. Dr Bernard Louis, of the greatest of the researchers of the Islam and the east in our generation determined recently, that there is a reason why Iran chose on this day to give her answer in the subject so fateful like her nuclear program, because this date is of enormous religious significance in the world of Islam. Iran has always combined religious symbolic with her political steps. Here is the accurate quotation from article of professor Bernard Louis:
On wall Street Gournal 8.8, that appeared under the caption ' August 22. Is it correct Iran preparing a surprise? (Beginning of quotation ) ' it's possible to see on the date this compatible day to her apocalyptic end of Israel and if needs also of the world. It's far from sure that Mister Ahmedinijad is preparing catastrofic events exactly on day 22 in August. But it is wise to take this as possibility' ( end of quotation )
According to the Shiite belief, 22 in August occurs this year on day that Allah discovered in front of Mohammed in the cave and heralded him that chose in him to be his prophet and to circulate his doctrine in the world. The holiday is called "mabath" and takes place in most of scattered shiite glory in Iran and other states in the middle East.
Since homeini came to power in Iran in 1977, Iran claims to besiege the leadership of rule on Moslems in the world, and therefore the American estimation is that on this day Iran would want to deliver the moslems the message of Irans progress and force.

-------- And it goes on and on....

CMAR II said...

mnuez,

Hizb says it won't disarm. The Lebanese government says it is "unreasonable" to expect their army to search for Hizb weapons to disarm them. The it is an open secret that NO member of an international force will enter Lebanon if it means fighting to disarm Hizb.

Therefore, the "ceasefire" is a farce. If Hizb doesn't want to be attacked, then they should turn their weapons over to the Lebanese government. Otherwise, they are international criminals. It is the Lebanese army's DUTY to disarm them, and if they won't, then it is the duty of the Israeli government (to its people) to do so.

Haven't enough people suffered and died for HA's backwards goals (especially the Lebanese)?
Die Hizballah, die!

Andrey said...

godudarinya ti bi luchshe posmotrela istoriyu poslednih 10-ti let, i agendu nineshnevo provitelstva

Akiva M said...

>>Semite - Someone who talks a sematic langauge. That means arabs and jews, as well as some african (Etiopeans for instance). The Term "Anti-sematism" is mostly used to describe rasicm aginst jews. This is just an "agreed" concept. But if you want to apply it to racism aginst arabs, you are totaly in line.<<

The term "anti-semitism" was coined in Europe, at a time when the jews were the only semitic people Europeans interacted with. The fact that there are other semitic people doesn't change the fact that "anti-semitism" is a term of art (a term with an acknowledged meaning that is different than its literal meaning) meaning "anti-jew"

Saying things like "I'm not an anti-semite because I like Arabs" is a lot like saying "I'm not anti-black, I own many black shirts"; it's a solipsitic, intellectually dishonest semantic game.

>>Do we fell superior to others? Well i don't, and all of my friends dont belive so either. There however people who do think so. But this are mostly religious people (and not all of them). Israel is 70% secular.<<

Religious jews (of which I'm one) do not feel superior to others. We may feel that we are acting correctly and others are not (the same way a christian might feel that failure to acknowledge Jesus is an incorrect action). But that isn't a "superior/inferior" issue, and the idea that it is is an anti-semitic slur that's been passed down through the centuries by the same folks who believe that Jews use blood to bake Matza and cite to the Protocols.

The Middle East News Addict said...

To Chas

my point is that as long as this number worked for Hezbollah (i.e. more civilians) then you did not detest this kind of calculation.

Baroon said...

God belss thier souls . God bless thier remind ones

Lirun said...

raja

you disappoint me.. got to give what to them?!

is fighting and inciting destruction something that should be honoured?

i dont think so..

wishing peace on all of us.. and may it be meaningful and final..

lirun
of telaviv
www.emspeace.blogspot.com
there is no honour in war - only death

Jordan said...

tears_for_lebanon, while I don't think it is a black and white issue, I think your bank robbery anology is useful but incomplete.

A man goes into a bank, takes a hostage, and finally... starts firing at the cops.

In any court through out the world, the robber would be blamed if the hostage even if it was a cops bullet killed her. When Hezbollah, or anyone else, fails to wear uniforms and fire from civilian locations they are intentionally making every civilian around them a target.

I think Israel should have stopped the bombing campaign much sooner, but I ultimately blame Hezbollah for using human shields. They knew exactly what they were doing when they took position in residential communities, and it worked beautifully. Israel looks horrible, and Hezbollah looks like heros.

CMAR II said...

Hurray for the Lebanese Defense Minister for choosing to assert the government and army's right to run Lebanon's foreign policy:

“We consider that when the resistance (Hezbollah) is committed not to fire rockets, then any rocket that is fired from the Lebanese territory would be considered collaboration with Israel to provide a pretext (for Israel) to strike.”

Lirun said...

the problem is that a single act in itself is insufficient to build trust.. we dont even have foundations for trust.. therefore many an act goes unnoticed..

we need to voice our desire for peace with every avenue we have.. our (both sides´) leaders dont get it..

lirun
from telaviv
www.emspeace.blogspot.com
we need to wake them up

Lirun said...

"where is peace in this equation?"

ill answer and say here we are!!

we are all here because we want to talk resolve and bridge.. we need to get louder..

we must make the world know.. WE WANT PEACE!! YOU HEAR THAT "WORLD"!! we have had enough!!

we are the equation!! the whole equation..

lirun
from telaviv
www.emspeace.blogspot.com
time to get factored into the equation!

Lirun said...

nip

i think you are very wrong because by blogging we are

(a) fostering understanding

(b) developing friendships

(c) documenting our desire for peace

(d) creating a movement

(e) affirming legitimacy for those who hold these views but dare not speak

these are things our governments have failed to do.. it is very meaningful that we continue..

but yes i agree.. action needs to happen in parrellel

lirun
telaviv
www.emspeace.blogspot.com
this is something

Mr. Smarterthanyou said...

Imagine what a blow for peace it would be if someone had the courage (in the face of UN opinion) to napalm these terrorist "funerals". They are military rallies, nothing more. Israel or the US could fry 5,000 of the most dedicated freaks in one afternoon, and then HB would hesitate to put on future shows of power, which would hurt recruitment and support.

Mr. Smarterthanyou said...

Why should they release prisoners?
What prisoners should they release, the brave arab men who killed little children with rifles and knives, in front of their siblings and parents in order to make the suffering worse? And please, don't compare that to arab children dying because those brave men of HB set up rocket launchers next to their houses, in the hopes of causing the Israelis to bomb them.

Why should they get out of land that was used as a base to attack them?

What kind of fool would believe you when you say "give us back what we and..."? Every time someone gives something to an Arab in echange for something else, they get screwed. Israel left Gaza, what did they get? Rocket attacks, tunnels and kidnapping. Israel left Lebanon decades ago, what did they get?

You arabs act like you really need to feel the heat of unrestrained war, because you think these little slaps that you have been getting are punches. You need feel some good, solid body blows, which the west won't give you out of political correctness. Seriously, if you were white, you would have been wiped out by now.

Lirun said...

has everyone taken tgoo much acid?

Mr. Smarterthanyou said...

Omer, you seem to not be able to do high level thinking (ask your teachers).

Do you know any women who think they are as tough as guys? Women who like to punch guys in the arm, or do macho activities? They swear they are just as tough as a guy. This is because no guy has ever really hit them back. They THINK they can hit as hard as a man, they THINK they can take a hit as well as a man, but they have no idea what the real story is, their ego's are too fragile to accept that men have been taking it easy on them.

This is how Arabs/Iranians are RE war with the west. They keep pushing at us, hitting us, and we have yet to haul off and put their lights out. It is time someone knocked the belligerant Arabs/Iranians down for their attacks, to show them that we have been showing restraint all this time. Once they have the realization, maybe they will be a bit more humble, maybe we will have less violence, and fewer strutting roosters like that Iranian shrimp who says the US will bow and surrender to the mighty Iranian people.

Now that I have explained every little detail, do you see why it is stupid to compare me to the PLO, Hamas or Hezbolla?

Lirun said...

res ipsur loquitur

Liliane said...

This is the difference between guerillas and soldiers.

Soldiers fight because this is their "job".

Guerillas fight because they want to.

And this is why they were stronger. Until now USA or Israel had to withdraw from vietnam and Lebanon respectively because they face a "resistance".