Monday, August 07, 2006

Two Demonstrations In PARIS


There two demonstrations taking place in PARIS.

Monday, August 7 at 7:00PM next to the Fontaine Des Innocents
, sponsored by Amnesty International to urge the international community to pressure for an immediate ceasefire.

Tuesday, August 8 at 7:00PM at the Place de la Bastille, for All Lebanese and friends of the Lebanese in support of Lebanon and a call for an immediate ceasefire without conditions.


"Nobody knows how many rebellions, besides political rebellions, ferment in the masses of life which people earth."

50 comments:

GeorgeBest said...

Poll shows that 99% of Palestinians believe that the 2 soldiers should not be released, even if it would mean a ceasefire.
97% of Palestinians support Hezbollah.
Hezbollah unites everybody.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060807/wl_mideast_afp/mideastconflictlebanonpalestinian

Lirun said...

i dont know if there is such thing a cease fire without conditions..

the lack of associated terms does not eliminate conditions..

if we agree to a CF without the return of our hostages and without the dissarming of the HA then what this reall is - is something else.. it's a ceasefire with the following guarantees:

(a) HA can re-assemble

(b) HA can re-arm

(c) HA can further leverage its kidnapping

(d) the people of lebanon can be used again as a battle field for additional auxiliary purposes

(e) the people in northern israel can expect additional rockets when the HA decides to revise the agenda

(f) Telaviv and other cities may still expect surprises

(g) israel can have its arm twisting into further strikes

and these become the implied conditions of such a ceasefire..

i ask all of us.. the people of lebanon and israel.. do we want a ceasefire with these guarantees attached?

more than anything - i want peace.. i believe my neighbours do too..

am i being too paranoid?

lirun
telaviv
www.emspeace.blogspot.com
trying to trust - trying so hard

doron said...

This war is Syria's revenge at Lebanon for throwing her out (of Lebanon).
It will end, as far as Syria's concern, when the lebanese people will ask Syria to return into Lebanon.
Bashar doesn't care if it will happen only after Lebanon is completly ruin and the entire christian popupaltion leave.

Fearless said...

Reuters drops Lebanese photographer over doctored image
Sun Aug 6, 2006 5:56pm ET

LONDON (Reuters) - Reuters, the global news and information agency, told a freelance Lebanese photographer on Sunday it would not use any more of his pictures after he doctored an image of the aftermath of an Israeli air strike on Beirut.

The photograph by Adnan Hajj, which was published on news Web sites on Saturday, showed thick black smoke rising above buildings in the Lebanese capital after an Israeli air raid in the war with the Shi'ite Islamic group Hizbollah, now in its fourth week.

Reuters withdrew the doctored image on Sunday and replaced it with the unaltered photograph after several news blogs said it had been manipulated using Photoshop software to show more smoke.

Reuters has strict standards of accuracy that bar the manipulation of images in ways that mislead the viewer.



"The photographer has denied deliberately attempting to manipulate the image, saying that he was trying to remove dust marks and that he made mistakes due to the bad lighting conditions he was working under," said Moira Whittle, the head of public relations for Reuters.

"This represents a serious breach of Reuters' standards and we shall not be accepting or using pictures taken by him," Whittle said in a statement issued in London.

Hajj worked for Reuters as a non-staff freelance, or contributing photographer, from 1993 until 2003 and again since April 2005.

He was among several photographers from the main international news agencies whose images of a dead child being held up by a rescuer in the village of Qana, south Lebanon, after an Israeli air strike on July 30 have been challenged by blogs critical of the mainstream media's coverage of the Middle East conflict.

Reuters and other news organizations reviewed those images and have all rejected allegations that the photographs were staged.



© Reuters 2006. All Rights Reserved.


Memri.org
Août 1, 2006 No.1220

Un officier iranien des Gardiens de la Révolution : le Hezbollah dispose d'une unité de plongée formée en Iran, d'unités commandos navales ; nous avons construit des postes de commande pour le Hezbollah ; des forces martyres iraniennes ont été envoyées au Liban

Le 29 juillet 2006, le quotidien arabe londonien Al-Sharq Al-Awsat a publié un article détaillant l'aide accordée au Hezbollah par les Gardiens de la Révolution, telle que décrite par un haut responsable des Gardiens de la Révolution chargé de l'entraînement des unités navales du Hezbollah. Selon cet officier, le Hezbollah dispose d'une unité de plongeurs et d'une unité navale de commandos. Il rapporte en outre que des officiers appartenant au corps des Gardiens de la Révolution ont prêté assistance au Hezbollah lors du tir du missile C802, le14 juillet 2006, sur un bateau de la marine israélienne ; ils ont en outre aidé le Hezbollah à construire les installations souterraines – y compris des postes de commande et de contrôle -, utilisés par les Gardiens de la Révolution ainsi que par les combattants du Hezbollah.
En outre, des agences de presse iraniennes ont publié un certain nombre de rapports sur des groupes de volontaires iraniens envoyés en renfort au Liban. Extraits :

Assistance des Gardiens de la Révolution au Hezbollah

Voici des extraits du rapport d'Al-Sharq Al-Awsat sur l'aide accordée au Hezbollah par les Gardiens de la Révolution : (1)


Juillet 31, 2006 No.1221

Réponse des médias gouvernementaux syriens à la proposition d'une force multinationale au Liban : "Nous sommes armés contre l'ennemi et nous lui réservons des surprises qui complèteront les actions de la résistance libanaise ; Israël est un chat frappé par le Hezbollah, qui va bientôt être dépecé."


En réponse à la proposition internationale d'une force multinationale au Liban sous l'égide de l'ONU, la presse gouvernementale syrienne a publié plusieurs articles opposés à la proposition, menaçant d'attaquer Israël ainsi que la force multinationale. Extraits :
Une force multinationale : une force d'occupation contre laquelle il faudrait résister

Un éditorial du quotidien gouvernemental syrien Al-Baath intitulé "Force internationale ou nouvelle occupation ?" affirme : "Quiconque croit que la présence de forces internationales sur le sol libanais représente une solution se méprend, puisque ces forces, aux yeux des combattants de la résistance et des nationalistes panarabes, seraient des forces d'occupation, à l'instar des forces ayant occupé l'Irak et d'autres endroits du monde.

Contre [des forces internationales] de ce type, la résistance des forces affrontant Israël au Liban sud, des frères arabes et des amis qui, [partout] dans le monde, soutiennent la résistance, est nécessaire. Elle se manifestera de plusieurs manières Quiconque croit que la destruction, le meurtre ou même l'occupation peuvent imposer des solutions en violant la souveraineté et l'honneur de la nation, se trompe." (1)

Dans un éditorial du quotidien Techrine, Izz Al-Din Darwish écrit : "Que signifie la présence d'une force internationale ? La soumission du Liban à la volonté d'Israël et la possibilité d'une nouvelle guerre civile. En outre, plus aucune raison de vivre au Liban sud, où ces forces seraient stationnées. Des rapports affirment en effet qu'une des conditions d'Israël est de pouvoir décider de qui pourra vivre au sud et de qui ne le pourra pas. Israël exige en outre que ces forces internationales [soient déployées] dans la majeure partie des territoires du sud, sur 30 km.

Voilà les forces internationales que les Etats-Unis et Israël proposent, sans tenir compte le moins du monde de la volonté du Liban et sans demander l'avis des Libanais, comme si le Liban était une terre publique [à la disposition] des Israéliens et de leurs projets d'agressions. Cela signifie que les Libanais seront forcés de traiter ces forces internationales comme des forces d'occupation sur leur terre (…)" (2)

Le but d'une force internationale sera d'éradiquer la résistance

Dans un éditorial du quotidien gouvernemental Techrine, Issam Dari écrit : "Ce que veut Israël, c'est mettre fin à la mission de la force d'urgence internationale [ndlr la Finul, Force intérimaire des Nations Unies au Liban], afin que le Liban soit déserté jusqu'au Litani, et même au-delà. Cela en prévision de la politique de terre brûlée qu'Israël compte appliquer, sous prétexte d'éradiquer la résistance, et également en prévision du déploiement des forces internationales que Condoleezza Rice a imposé au sommet de Rome.

Cette force occupera le Liban sud et aura pour mission d'éradiquer la résistance nationale libanaise, de la part d'Israël. N'oublions pas que la proposition actuelle fait référence aux forces de l'OTAN! (…) Nous espérons que quelqu'un comprendra le danger des événements actuels et évitera [aux autres] d'être happés par le complot américain (…)" (3)

Israël est un chat qui sera bientôt dépecé

Fouad Sharbaji, ancien directeur de la télévision nationale syrienne, écrit dans un article du quotidien Techrine intitulé "Hassan Nasrallah et des conseils à Rice sur le dépeçage du chat : "(…) Nous, Arabes syriens, nous tenons devant Rice et déclarons au monde entier : nous ne consentirons jamais à ce qu'une force nous retire les armes de l'honneur et nous ne permettrons pas à Israël d'accomplir ses objectifs au moyen de forces internationales, de forces multinationales ou des forces de l'OTAN.

Nous, en Syrie, non seulement nous tenons du côté de la résistance, mais nous préparons à toute circonstance imprévue et à tout événement. Nous, en Syrie, avec un sage rationalisme, nous armons d'honneur pour répondre à toute agression, et nous sommes armés comme il faut pour frapper et surprendre l'ennemi, de façon à compléter les actions de la résistance libanaise.

Finalement, je propose à Condoleezza Rice d'écouter Hassan Nasrallah et de considérer la situation actuelle d'Israël. [Israël] est le chat que la résistance a atteint, et il est probable qu'il sera bientôt dépecé. Aucune force, quel que soit le nombre de nations qu'elle inclut, ne pourra lui venir en aide." (4)


(1) Al-Baath (Syrie), le 27 juillet 2006
(2) Techrine (Syrie), le 30 juillet 2006
(3) Techrine (Syrie), le 29 juillet 2006
(4) Techrine (Syrie), le 30 juillet 2006





Des centaines de combattants du Hezbollah faisant actuellement face aux militaires israéliens ont pris part à des sessions d'entraînement spécial dans les bases des Gardiens de la Révolution à Téhéran, Ispahan, Mashhad et Ahvaz. D'après un haut responsable du corps des Gardiens, chargé de l'entraînement de l'une des unités navales, le Hezbollah a plus d'un tour dans son sac. Jusqu'à présent, il n'y a pas eu de confrontation directe entre le Hezbollah et la marine israélienne ; toutefois l'un des bateaux de la marine israélienne a été attaqué par des missiles C802 avec l'aide des Gardiens de la Révolution stationnés au Liban. Le Hezbollah dispose d'une unité de plongeurs et d'une unité navale de commandos équipée de hors-bord Ho-Dong de fabrication chinoise, capables d'assener des coups durs à la marine israélienne.

L'officier iranien a ajouté que "grâce à la présence d'ingénieurs et de techniciens iraniens, et celle d'experts de Corée du Nord introduits (au Liban) sous l'apparence de serviteurs par des diplomates iraniens et par le personnel des bureaux iraniens au Liban, le Hezbollah s'est arrangé pour construire un (tunnel) souterrain de 25 km. Chacune des entrées de ce (tunnel) mesure entre 12 à 18 mètres carrés, a un sol mobile et un plafond semi-mobile. Les quatre ouvertures sont reliées par un passage qui permet aux combattants de passer facilement (d'une ouverture) à une autre.

Les Gardiens (de la Révolution) ont aussi construit des entrepôts souterrains dans la vallée de la Bekaa, à une profondeur de pas plus de huit mètres ; ils contiennent de très grosses quantités de missiles et de munitions. Dans la Bekaa se trouve (aussi) un poste de commande central utilisé par quatre officiers du corps des Gardiens de la Révolution et quatre (combattants) du Hezbollah. Chaque secteur a son (propre) poste de commandement et d'opérations.

L'unité de missiles du Hezbollah comprend quelques 200 techniciens et spécialistes entraînés en Iran. Le Hezbollah a trois unités de missiles, chacune supervisée par 20 membres."

2500 combattants-suicide iraniens attendent les ordres de Khamenei.

Voici des rapports dernièrement publiés par des agences de presse iraniennes au sujet de groupes de volontaires iraniens envoyés au Liban pour prêter assistance au Hezbollah dans sa lutte contre Israël :

Le 25 juillet 2006, l'agence de presse iranienne Farda a cité un rapport de l'Agence de presse travailliste iranienne (ILNA), affirmant que le Hezbollah et l'Iran avaient recruté quelques 2500 combattants suicide qui attendaient l'ordre du Guide suprême iranien Ali Khamenei pour se rendre au Liban.

Mojtaba Bigdeli, porte-parole du Hezbollah en Iran, a ajouté que Mohammed Baqr Kharrazi, président du Hezbollah en Iran, sera "bientôt stationné au Liban pour soutenir le Hezbollah au Liban et exprimer sa solidarité envers la résistance et la nation libanaise opprimée, et aussi pour suivre de plus près l'évolution de la situation.

Quelques 2500 personnes tout à fait disposées à mettre à exécution les opérations d'istishhad (martyre) ont signé par le biais de groupes liés au Hezbollah-Iran, de sorte que la liste (des martyrs) est maintenant prête et qu'ils attendent un ordre du Guide suprême (Ali Khamenei)…" (2)

Recrutement de volontaires sur la Toile

Le 26 juillet 2006, l'Agence de presse iranienne Alborz a annoncé qu'il était possible de se porter volontaire en ligne pour rejoindre "l'armée des combattants de Mahomet". Le rapport précise que l'Armée des combattants de Mahomet recrute des combattants à envoyer au Liban et que ceux qui souhaitaient s'inscrire peuvent appeler Téhéran au 88938821. Le rapport précise que l'âge minimum des volontaires est de 16 ans.

Deux groupes de combattants martyrs envoyés au Liban

Le 18 juillet 2006, l'agence de presse Alborz rapporte que deux groupes de combattants martyrs iraniens, ayant reçu formation et entraînement, ont été envoyés au Liban afin de participer à (la guerre sur) ses fronts.

Ali Mohammadi, porte-parole des quartiers généraux de l'Organisation islamique mondiale de commémoration des shahids (combattants martyrs), a affirmé : "Ces deux groupes, qui comprennent 27 personnes sélectionnées parmi 55000 inscrits, ont été envoyés au Liban pour rejoindre le front contre le régime sioniste (…) Ces forces ont subi plusieurs formes d'entraînement (…) Leur mission est d'arriver au Liban par tous les moyens possibles et de perpétrer des opérations martyres pour le cas où le Liban serait occupé par les régime sioniste."

L'envoi de ces troupes, a-t-il noté, s'est fait avec le consentement des volontaires (…) Ces personnes ont été envoyées au Liban individuellement. Elles n'ont pas de lien avec le Hezbollah (…) Il convient de noter que ces 27 personnes maîtrisent l'anglais et l'arabe. Ils doivent demeurer au Liban jusqu'à nouvel ordre (…)" (3)

L'Agence de presse Mehr : Deux équipes ont été envoyées en Syrie vers les régions du conflit au Liban

Selon un autre rapport de l'Agence de presse Mehr, concernant l'envoi de deux groupes de combattants suicide au Liban, le porte-parole Mohammadi a déclaré que "deux équipes, l'une de 18 personnes et l'autre de neuf individus, se sont rendues séparément (…) en Syrie, afin de rejoindre les régions du conflit au Liban par tous les moyens possibles (…)" Mohammadi a noté que "les 27 (membres) maîtrisent l'arabe, et certains parlent même anglais (…) Nous n'avons pas de lien avec le Hezbollah ou un autre groupe. Ces gens sont partis dans le but d'aider les Libanais, et ils agissent indépendamment." (4)


(1) Al-Sharq Al-Awsat (Londres), 29 juillet 2006, http://www.asharqalawsat.com/print/default.asp?did=375420
(2) Agence de presse Farda (Iran), 25 juillet 2006, http://fardanews.com/show/?id=22540
(3) Agence de presse Alborz (Iran), 18 juillet 2006, http://www.alborznews.net/shownews.asp?u=6132
(4) Agence de presse Mehr (Iran), 17 juillet 2006, comme rapporté par le portail de nouvelles iranien www.dat.ir.

Sherri said...

Bombs rain down from the sky
Where will they land
Will another child die?

Oh, Israel
In the name of fighting terror, you terrorize

Hold a country under siege
Blowing up roads leading out
Bombing the cities of Lebanon

Killing their children
Creating destruction and devastation
And dashed hopes and dreams

Will the rivers run red with the blood of the innocent children of Lebanon?
How many must die before your hate abates,
And your blood lust is satisfied?

The world sits and watches
But does nothing to stop you
The killing of the innocents goes on and on

I cry out to God
Please stop the killing
In Lebanon and Israel

Hear the cries of your children
There is so much suffering and pain
And so much hate too

God, I implore you, I beg you
Let it stop now
Intervene, and for once give us justice

ronen said...

I feel mercy for all the lebanese whom could not actually defined themeselve as an independent entity. Lebanon as a nation cannot control terrorist groups such as Hizbollah who setteled in their country on behalf of syria and iran.
Israel has the right to defend her own citizens from rocket attacks and from kidnapping innocent soldiers. Don't blame Israel for attacking Lebanon. Israel has the right to bomb and destroyed any villege or even whole beirut in order to prevent attackes on Israel. Bear in mind that we havn't used but 30% of our potential power, and if necessery we will use our extra measures which will totally destroy Lebanon. This current opperetion is just the promotion for what will happen if Hizbollah will continue his aggression upon Israel after a ceasfire will take place at the region.
I feel mercy on the innocent Lebanese civilians, but look at the mirror and tell us honestly what was the ulternative to the current war when you know better than us that the aim of Hizbollah in south Lebanon is to destroy Israel.When it is clear today more than ever that Hizbollah use humen shields in civil areas and hide in Beirut and other villeges. Not that they will succeed on that goal but enough is enough, and if the lebanese army won't control Hizbollah than the whole world (except sirya and iran) will fully support Israel in attacking in much more power at Lebanon the next time, and believe me- Hizbollah havn't seen nothing yet just because we try not to harm innocent civilians in Lebanon.
My sympathy to the lebanese people. I know that vast majority of you want to get rid of Hizbollah as a militery group, but if you cannot be able to do the job, than someone else will do that.
Ronen from Pardess Hanna/Israel.

Sherri said...

Do you really think that killing everyone is the answer? Or threats to use your superior fire power? Do you really think violence is the pathway to peace? Every time you kill, you create new pain and suffering. And that pain turns to hate and more violence.

Lirun said...

sherri..

you're quite disgusting.. you remind me of those people who glue their faces to horror movies..

blood lust?

our people are dying every day as well..

you are not helping anyone

Sherri said...

O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing. Look, your house is left to you desolate. For I tell you, you will not see me again until you say, Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord. Matthew 24:37

Lirun said...

why don't you fly over here.. and sit in qiryat shmona and write those poems of yours..

tell the people whose houses are being bombed.. whose lives are being destroyed and whose children are being killed.. recite to them about their blood lust..

look them in the eye and tell them that sitting as ducks under rocket fire for the past few decades is blood lust..

sherri.. i can appreciate that you may be trying to forward a peaceful outcome..

but your lack of empathy in a truly two multifaceted situation is stomach turning..

it's rare that i respond to people on this angle.. but i cannot accept the presentation of unsubstantiated opinion as if it were fact.. what do you know about what we lust for? its clear you dont care at all..

i wish for real peace much more than you do - a peace for all of us - not just HA and frankly not just lebanon..

lirun
telaviv
www.emspeace.blogspot.com
we all deserve peace

Sherri said...

lirun,
I admit I have a problem feeling sympathy for Israel. But there are so many more lives being lost in Lebanon. And the images of your country targeting and blowing up civilian populations does not go away. You destroy their homes, their communities, their livelihood. And this is the 7th invasion of Lebanon, the 7th time you have created this type of destruction in Lebanon.

Sherri said...

The respose by Israel to Hezbollah's actions was didproportionate. It is not as if that was the only thing leading up to the invasion. There were events back and forth on the borders going on for months that led up to Hezbollah's actions when they kidnapped the soldiers. I agree a country has the right to defend themselves. But I don't think that ever justifies the murder of innocent men, women, and children.
Nothing justifies targeting civilians.

Pasdutout said...

Doron,

In light of both history, and postings on this blog, Do you believe Lebanon will ever ASK Syria to come back?

Sherri said...

Yesterday was the 61st anniversary of the United States using the first nuclear bomb, against Hiroshima. A city was targeted with a population of 350,000. So far, almost 250,000 of the residents have died. Every year thousands more die from radiation related causes. The US government apparently continues to believe and maintain this was justified, to end the war.

Lirun said...

sherri

i am not for a second supporting the death of innocent people but

(a) you dont think that the death of our innocent men and children and women is deplorable?

(b) so are you telling me that israel's only choice was to send the HA a summons issued by a court asking them to attend and discuss why they have been bombing us for so long?

(c) what would you do - if you were israel.. please tell me.. how would you respond to the shelling? dont tell me what you would have done differently over the years because many different mistakes have been made by all.. and thats no secret.. think 3 weeks ago.. how would you ms sherri-israel have responded..

very curious

lirun
telaviv
www.emspeace.blogspot.com
peace shouldnt mean suicide

1earth said...

"But there are so many more lives being lost in Lebanon"

Lebanese are bad at war, that doesn't make them right. They should have thought about that before declaring war on Israel.
Lebanon declared war on Israel in 1948, before Israel ever set foot in Lebanon.

Anyways a lot more lives were lost in Germany and Japan than America. How many American civilians did Germany and Japan kill? A few dozen maybe.
On the other hand the USA killed millions of Germans and Japanes civilians. But with your dumb logic, you would have sympathized more with the Germans and Japanese than America, because so many more of them died.


"Nothing justifies targeting civilians."

Actually international law justifies it. The enemy can't use civilian shields to protect themselves from counter-attacks.

Sherri said...

lirun,
Why not try to deal with the problem diplomatically? I did not hear of any news reports about Israel bringing the issues before the United Nations or of talks with the Lebanese government or the United States or any other international body about the increasingly more hostile encounters between Israel and Hezbollah. Who knows what would have been accomplished if more attempts for a peaceful resolution would have been attempted? I think we all would be safer if more attempts were made by everyone for peaceful resolutions to problems. And that includes talking to your enemies, Hezbollah, Hamas, Syria, Iran, everyone involved. Calling your enemies names, "terrorists" and refusing a dialogue is just a recipe for war.You talk to people to achieve peace. If you don't talk to them, you just have endless war.

Lirun said...

i hate this discussion

my friend in beirut is telling me that he is out of money - he cant get out because he is afraid to travel and he cant afford food..

my friends in the north of israel have mostly evacuated but there is a lot of human suffering there as well.. especially amongst the poorer bunches who have nowhere to go and cant get to work and have kids to look after and people to bury and nurse..

i have only one question of my lebanese friends.. in qana and in every other bombing where civillians are tragically killed and we are told they could not escape because the land transport infrastructure has been damaged completely.. how is it that the hugo boss wearing international journalists can suddenly appear out of nowhere and film the whole thing..

there is no way they can get there by helicopters - i dont believe these oxford LSE harvard and yale graduates are living in these towns..

can someone please explain this anomoly

i want my friends to get out of there until its over..

Sherri said...

Talking about humas rights issues is really not in Israel's advantage. I just pulled up recent reports by Amnesty International detailing substantial human rights violations regarding civilians by Israel in Lebanon and in Gaza and the West Bank. Right now, there is a humanitarian crisis in all of these areas. People are starving. They have no shelters. Their homes have been destroyed. People are drinking dirty water.
The dead can't be dug out from under the rubble and buried. I have read of dogs eating the bodies of the dead. Every moment, the humanitarian crisis becomes more serious.

PeaceMan said...

http://www.jihadwatch.org/

What does the Arabic word jihad mean?

One answer came last week, when Saddam Hussein had his Islamic leaders appeal to Muslims worldwide to join his jihad to defeat the "wicked Americans" should they attack Iraq; then he himself threatened the United States with jihad.

As this suggests, jihad is "holy war." Or, more precisely: It means the legal, compulsory, communal effort to expand the territories ruled by Muslims at the expense of territories ruled by non-Muslims.

The purpose of jihad, in other words, is not directly to spread the Islamic faith but to extend sovereign Muslim power (faith, of course, often follows the flag). Jihad is thus unabashedly offensive in nature, with the eventual goal of achieving Muslim dominion over the entire globe.

Jihad did have two variant meanings through the centuries, one more radical, one less so. The first holds that Muslims who interpret their faith differently are infidels and therefore legitimate targets of jihad. (This is why Algerians, Egyptians and Afghans have found themselves, like Americans and Israelis, so often the victims of jihadist aggression.) The second meaning, associated with mystics, rejects the legal definition of jihad as armed conflict and tells Muslims to withdraw from the worldly concerns to achieve spiritual depth.

Jihad in the sense of territorial expansion has always been a central aspect of Muslim life. That's how Muslims came to rule much of the Arabian Peninsula by the time of the Prophet Muhammad's death in 632. It's how, a century later, Muslims had conquered a region from Afghanistan to Spain. Subsequently, jihad spurred and justified Muslim conquests of such territories as India, Sudan, Anatolia, and the Balkans.

Today, jihad is the world's foremost source of terrorism, inspiring a worldwide campaign of violence by self-proclaimed jihadist groups:

The International Islamic Front for the Jihad Against Jews and Crusaders: Osama bin Laden's organization;
Laskar Jihad: responsible for the murder of more than 10,000 Christians in Indonesia;
Harakat ul-Jihad-i-Islami: a leading cause of violence in Kashmir;
Palestinian Islamic Jihad: the most vicious anti-Israel terrorist group of them all;
Egyptian Islamic Jihad: killed Anwar El-Sadat in 1981, many others since, and
Yemeni Islamic Jihad: killed three American missionaries on Monday.
But jihad's most ghastly present reality is in Sudan, where until recently the ruling party bore the slogan "Jihad, Victory and Martyrdom." For two decades, under government auspices, jihadists there have physically attacked non-Muslims, looted their belongings and killed their males.

Jihadists then enslaved tens of thousands of females and children, forced them to convert to Islam, sent them on forced marches, beat them and set them to hard labor. The women and older girls also suffered ritual gang-rape, genital mutilation and a life of sexual servitude.

Sudan's state-sponsored jihad has caused about 2 million deaths and the displacement of another 4 million - making it the greatest humanitarian catastrophe of our era.

Sherri said...

I thought this was a Lebanese blog. How many of you providing statements in support of Israel are being paid for responding to comments on this blog? Who pays you? Israel or the United States?

Lirun said...

i agree that not enough diplomatic work has been done..

israel is suffering a chrisis with the international institutions.. unifil saw our solidiers being kidnapped in the past and had video evidence that could have helped achieve their release.. they admitted to withholding the evidence and nothing came of this..

unfortunately little is now left of my countries respect for these organs..

a security council resolution was already passed on this matter.. it has been widely quoted on this blog.. how much more could we hope for..

we have been repeatedly bombed for a long time.. this is no secret and the world has not been interested..

so israel has resorted to a legal doctrine called self-help..

HOWEVER.. i still agree with you.. diplomacy has been under-explored..

unfortunately however - our repeated requests for a treaty with lebanon have been turned down and the UN has done nothing to enforce the resolution of its security council..

the problem in negotiating with a terrorist organisation is legitimising their strategy.. effectively that would mean sidelining lebanon as a sovereign and accepting that it is a purely administrative organ run by HA.. the message sent by such actions is that any group of vigilantes - whether or not political - should be able to cripple a sovereign into yielding to its demands..

this is a terrifying message..

i for one am passionate about the environment - i love my land and i am very sad about forests burning and oil ravaging our marine life.. i think its fatally detrimental and i worry about it.. so i pick up garbage everywhere i go hiking and i take every international guest i have to a polluted beach for a morning to remove rubbish.. i certainly dont bomb people about it - or kidnap them or stab a family.. even though i feel that my cause is global and 10000000% correct..

Sherri - again - i think your heart is sitting in the right place.. but i think your vision is squewed..

wishing peace to every single one of us

lirun
telaviv
www.emspeace.blogspot.com
its to be shared

1earth said...

Sherri how much is Hezbollah paying you to pretend to be an American Christian when the moment somebody engages you in discussion you reveal yourself to be a blindly one sided, jihadist? If Hezbollah gives you a better deal I might as well work for them instead of Mossad.

SadLebaneseGirl said...

Lirun
I am disgusted by your attitude, you say you want peace and deplore deaths on both sides but you fail to be objective about ur government part of responsibility in this conflict! we lebanese have been objective till now, we did not agree with the capturing of the israeli soldiers especially if it was on ur side of the borders, but after how ur reasonnable PM and his DM responded to that (one parallel comes to mind is that of germany invading czechoslovakia and poland in pre WWII!) we have every right to respond, Hezballa at least offerred to exchange prisoners, you if you don't want that you could have performed one of ur heroic commando operation and captured some Hezbolla militants, but no proportionality is not in ur dictionary!!!
u are lamenting about kiriat shmona, well look at the south lebanon it's 1000000 times worse, so don't expect us to feel pity while we are under the fire of ur f16s !
if peace loving israelis can't see any part of responsibility in their government's actions then the whole israeli people is HOPELESSLY BLIND! you seem to forget that shebaa farms, whether lebanese or syrian it is NOT ISRAELI LAND, and there is a UN resolution that requires israel to withdraw from it, how many of those resolutions isreal has ignored? you have the power on ur side, you can wipe the whole middle east with ur nuclear weapons, and yet you claim that ur existance is threatenned by qassam and katyuchas, who is the paranoid here? blood of innocents on both sides is on israelis hands who accept to live on stolen lands, drink stolen water and blame their victims for rebelling! how can u live with that, have you no humanity left in you? what a shame!

Sherri said...

I am an American, but I am a Christian first. My religion teaches me to love, not hate. "Love your enemy" "Love one another" "Love your neighbor as yourself" "Blessed are the peacemakers". I view Israel as starting this war and keeping it going.

Sherri said...

How can a resoltion for a cease fire or cessation of fighting be acceptable when Israel remains within Lebanon? Israel has just displaced over 1 million people there, killed probably 1000 civilians by now (remember, that have to dig out the bodies from all the rubble still), bombed it extensively. How can they agree for Israel to remain within Lebanon? How can any reasonable person feel that is a fair and acceptable agreement? This is just an example of people with power (Israel and the United States) trying to dictate to the world how things are to be done.

John said...

Sherri,

Take off that blindfold. Hell, you know what? keep shouting. A religion ( Christianity) that preaches that "when you're being spanked on the cheek you should turn your head so you you'll be spanked on the other cheek" is a pitiable and pathetic way of life.

That and other reasons is why I respect Islam a lot more than Christianity.

John said...

Sherri,

Look at it from the other side: how can Israel retreat, when she doesn't haveinternational, lebanese or HZ guarantees that when she retreats HZ won't go the the border and start shooting from there, regardless of the cease fire ?

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Sherri said...

iearth,
I am not employed by Hezbollah. I am not a Muslim. I completely cannot relate to their philosophies or beliefs, but they are a group who represent a part of the population of Lebanese. And they view themselves as defending the country of Lebanon from Israel's agression. They are the Islamic Resistance and viewed as a valid organization in the Arab world and becoming heros all over the Arab world. The more martyrs Israel makes of them, the more their popularity grows.
And I think Israel's government should talk to them. Giving them a label, terrorist, and not talking to them accomplishes nothing positive. Their techniques arise from desparation. Those techniques are the only way they have to fight Israel, because Israel has such superior conventional military power. I am not saying their techniques are right or good. But I can understand their actions. They have seen their populations attacked and killed by Israel, over and over. They choose to arm themselves, to fight, not just die.

EdoRiver said...

You commenters are too much focused on what is happening now. There probably most definitely IS a PLAN in Israel's government's mind about this whole issue. It doesn't end with Hesbollah.

Why do I say this? Do I know some deep secret? No, I am just an ordinary joe living in Japan. I have worked for the government. I know how goverments think,,well, sort of..I'm no genius. The government, any government has people making plans, that's their job, make plans based on various scenarios.
Some of these are fantasies, that current leaders/bureaucrats think will never happen. You never know the future. The guys in power depend on being prepared for anything, as much as possible. they pay big money for the smartest people they can get to take information and put it together in different ways.

So, I have been reading these blogs for
2 weeks, and I didn't find much in the discussions about the FUTURE plans for Hesbollah, Israel, Lebanon. I'm basically lazy, I thought I would get the answers here. I found I had to do some searching on my own.
NO, I don't claim to have THE ANSWER. Because there isn't ONe. No one knows the future, but if you have a little imagination, you can put yourself in their shoes, walk a few miles and then you begin to see as "they" see, and catch some thoughts as "they" would think. There are several "theys" and "thems". Take your pick. The Internet has alot of useful (and useless) information out there...waiting

Shmulik said...

sadlebanesegirl

I can answer few of your points but please explain me this. Why do you consider 2 border guards who havn't even fired their weapons equal to 2 terroists including Samir Quntar- a man who has crossed the border and murdered an entire family in cold blood (including bashing the head of a 4 year old girl)? Is this just? Is this right? Do you love child murderes so much? Please, I want your opinion.

dunes said...

SadLebaneseGirl:
"we lebanese have been objective " ok - so when you said israel started this whole mess you were Objective ?
when you said that "if it was on ur side of the borders" when its a known documented fact that it was on israel border ?
what do you expect we do when lebanon killed 8 of our ppl and kiddnaped 2 , slap on on the wrist and asking dont do that again.
how can you expect the israel PM OR DM facing the widdows and mothers of these fallen soldiers and saying to them it was a minor incident. i dont think these mothers and wifes who are never going to see those sons and husbands will agree with that.

"Hezballa at least offerred to exchange prisoners,"
prisoners like samir kontar who killed 2 little girls and their father on israel soil is he a prisoner or a plain murderer ? do you consider him a hero ?


"Hezbolla militants, but no proportionality is not in ur dictionary!!!"
So again im asking you what a "proportional" reaction would be when 8 lifes have been taken should we just take 8 other lebanese of your street and kill them
and then kiddnap 2 more ?
why do you continue to hold on to that old mantra of proportional its a war and you have chosen the wrong enemy

let me ask you this do you agree that HA fires rockets on israel and then hides the launchers in a civillian building ?
if you do then what would you expect israel to do just let them reload and shoot again on israel ?
if you dont then i really have nothing to say to you as you are blind and so there will never be peace with israel.

doron said...

sherri wrote: The respose by Israel to Hezbollah's actions was didproportionate - who said the response to invasion, killing, kidnapping and massive rocket attacks should be proportionate? why should we react proportionatly? if we react proportionatly the enemy would survive and be able to threat us in the future.

The response should either eliminate the enemy or be so hursh he will never want to attack us again.
Since we are dealing we extreme religious people who will never give up, we have no choice but fight till they are eliminated.

doron said...

pasdutout - i didn't say the lebanese will ask Syria, i said this is what Syria wants.
I believe some of the people in lebanon will supoprt it, and some will not (this is according to what i read in the newspapers and on this blog). also, the lebanese gov. might invite Syria for certain reasons.

Lirun said...

joe

i hope there is a plan.. im feeling like my government is dealing with moving targets.. and for this reason i hate it..

i dont know when either party will feel that it has achieved its goals..

when the draft CF was announced i was encouraged.. i thought perhaps we now both have a chance for our testosterone soaked governments/HA (and i say this as proud member of the male gender) to bail out respectfully..

i am fearful that the UN resolution will be toothless - however - until it gets totally ignored.. i continue to hope that they will

i want this war over as soon as possible..

sorry sadlebanese girl.. i can tell that responding to you specifically will only serve argument..

wishing for peace

lirun
telaviv
www.emspeace.blogspot.com
we need peace

Lirun said...

that is to say - i continue to hope the CF will be accepted and honoured

Sherri said...

I am sitting and listening to my President talk about September 11 again. And about how this is a fight between terrorism and democracy. Can anyone explain to me how Hezbollah, that exists within a democracy, kidnapping of soldiers, in another democracy, Israel, is a fight between terrorism and democracies. My President is an idiot. I just pray my country still exists when his term is up. This is the third war he has started in revenge for September 11. And he still has not caught the outlaw responsible, Osama Bin Ladin. I know this in name is a war between Israel and Hezbollah. But the US gives Israel weapons, and it is the US who has been against an immediate cease fire from the start.

How many wars will the US start in revenge for September 11? How many innocent people in the world will die before our blood lust is satisfied? Or what is driving us if not hate or a desire for revenge? Power? Money? What is it?You know, the defense contractors, and the oil companies are making billions off these wars.

Sherri said...

I keep hearing everyone say Iran is responsible for everything. How many wars have they started? And so what if they help Hezbollah? Hezbollah consists of Shiite Muslims and Iran is a Shiite Muslim government. The US helps Israel.

Sherri said...

Lebanon is just caught in the middle here. Caught in the middle of a power struggle between the West and Iran, a power struggle between Shiite and Sunni Muslims, and a power struggle between Israel and Arabs who feel it holds Arab lands unjustly.

They need to just take action now to stop the killing. All of these conflicts cannot be solved here and at the cost of more lost lives, mostly of innocent civilians of both Lebanon and Israel.

canada4peace said...

when i see how much the media are covering any conflicts and the profound disinformation (specially in the US and other countries) shows why there is so much hatred (no side shows the real fact or simply omits them). The current Lebanon-Israel conflict is simply incomprehensible by any means of the imagination. This war is US initiated and using US armaments which both Israel and Lebanon are simply suffering actors. Just before this war started, the main problems in the Israeli-Lebanese conflicts were the Chaaba Farms regions which the UN declared as Syria and also the Lebanese prisoners which Israel's supreme courts called illegal. Unfortunately there was not much efforts put forward from the US or the Israeli government to actions these 2 items which are simples and easy offers for peace. These 2 items are the main contentions behind Hizbollah constant attacks in Israel. Again I find incomprehensible this war which only kills people and precious children and promote new generation of hatred from both side of the conflict. The irony in this conflict is the 2 items for peace mentioned above will probably happen soon with diplomacy talks but this will unfortunately only happen after you have blood of innocent from both side. The diplomatic talks before this war could have saved hundreds of lives and stop a new generation of hatred. The current media do not promote any diplomatic talks for peace but war and hatred.

Also I am not blind as to the impact of the Palestine-Israel conflict. The diplomatic talks will never succeed as long as the terrorists groups from both Palestine and Israel control that region. We don't hear much about this but Israel has its own terrorist "right-wing" groups who are still very active and are on the US terrorists list.

I am sorry to the international community about my current Canadian government which our Prime-Minister is a shame (Harper) and is a blatant US puppet, he doesn't speak for the Canadian majority. Hopefully Canadians will change this situation this coming September has that minority of "extreme-right" tugs will be defeated.

ronen said...

Dear Sherri,
Let me ask you few questions-
1.Who will disarmed Hizbollah from their weppons?

2. Who will cause Hizbollah to move out of civilians popolation areas, and cause him to stop use Lebanese people as humen shields?

3. Who will stop Hizbollah from fire rockets from houses of innocent civilians?

Please ask those questions, and I wonder if there is something new that will solve the problem depart from war.
And please be realistic and don't use nice slogans that will lead to nothing.

Ariya said...

Watch them turn into pro-Hezbullah rallies.

canada4peace said...

ronen muskat: the same could be asked: Who will disarm the "right-wing" terrorists in Israel i.e. the Jewish Brigade ??

Also the statements in your questions are baseless for #2 and #3. The American Human Right Watch already investigated over 100 incidents on Lebanon soil and found systematically that no weapons or Hizbollah members were found but only injured/dead civilians. So far the international pressure on Israel to investigate the bombing of the UN compound in Khiam and Qana only got from Israel that it was a mistake (Israel had no proof). But paradoxically the Israel government said they taught no civilians were in the bombed buildings in Qana but also said it is the fault of Hizbollah for using human shield, do you see the contradiction in that statement ??

Take a bit less time watching propaganda on TV and search more the facts which is freely available on the net.

Shmulik said...

Canada4peace

1) What jewish brigade? you might not know this but jewish terroists (as few as there are) are rotting in israeli jails and not having a state within a state firing on Israel's neghibours.
2)Firing rockets from INSIDE villages is considered as using human shields. It doesn't matter if there are civilians in that area in that exact second or not.

canada4peace said...

Shmulik: thank you for your input. I must say I used the Jewish Brigade as a example but lets not kid ourselves that by imprisoning a few, you don't kill the movement. just looking at the recent sniper shootings in Palestine, you can see that both terrorist sides are still involved. Also do you know hitting civilian targets even though those civilian are used as shield is illegal by the Geneva convention. If this international law wouldn't exist, it would give any nations the right to kill civilian under the "human shield" pretext. But as we know, not much gets accomplished against any states unless the US decide to do so.

I am also discussed and worried by the amount of children death in the Palestinian/Israeli/Lebanon conflicts. Shmulik: do you really think those death accomplish anything ? and that diplomacy between Israel and Lebanon was impossible before the Lebanese/Israeli conflict??

ronen said...

canada4peace:
Just bear in mind that no matter what the world public view is, we must defend ourselves against evil terrorists who doesn't care on children live. And they don't care about Lebanese children and use them as humen shields.
Hizbollah still fire rockets from civilian areas and you should blame them not us as to the bombardment all over the area in Lebanon.
And by the way we informed lebanese civilians in advance as to our aim to bomb their villeges before we actually did it in order to let them go out and find shelters somewhere else.
We bomb targets which the whole world know that they Hizbollah's bases or offices. South Beirut for example is a Hizbollah area- each one in Lebanon would admitt this fact.
We have nothing against Labanese civilians and we will keep fighting our anamy there.
By the way-We don't have Jewish brigads. And please count for me how many terrorist attacks did by Jewish right wing against arabs, whom we live with in co-existence in Israel.
And as to the Palestinians- we want them to build her own country but look who are the leaders there and who control the policy at the moment. The last thing we want is that Gaza strip would became an El Qaida militery bases against us and against you there in Canada.

ronen said...

canada4peace:
No, this diplomacy you talked about
cannot existed between Lebanon and Israel because Syria and Iran control Hizbollah there, and prime minister Senyora is fully scared from them. We withdrew from Lebanon and then trouble had fully started.
Senyora cried because he knows Hizbollah lead Lebanon into tragedy. He cannot admitt it because they'll kill him if he do so.

Sherri said...

It was reported that the Hezbollah members agreed with the plan to send the army to the south, so maybe they are really willing to let the Lebanon Army take over. Really, the different groups in Lebanon need to pull together for the good of the country and try to get along better. All of the suffering and pain that has happened there, use it for a good result. Look how badly Hezbollah's communities were hit. They need to focus on rebuilding. And they are Lebanese first, aren't they? You keep talking about the pull Iran and Syria has on them. Maybe they will all pull together and work together. What else can be done? Hezbollah represents the Shiite Muslims, which is 40% or so of the population of the country. You can't just eliminate them or expel them from their country.

ronen said...

Dear Sherri,
The truth is that Hizbollah militery organisation created by Iran and Syria and back up by them.
There are even an iranian soldiers who joined Hizbollah. You cannot trust them and I don't blame the lebanese prime minister but he is a doll. He cannot control Hizbollah and the only reasonable step which we can eccept at this stage is that we will stay in Lebanon until a real army take place at south Lebanon, and not a lebanese army which is a joke.
We are about to reach an agreemnet which will include disarming Hizbollah from their weapons and rockets. Hizbollah of course doesn't want it and we know why- they want to destroy Israel by the encourage of Iran and Syria.
And Seniora is fully scared from Syria and Iran and therefore he won't disarm Hizbollah because if he do so (which realisticlly he can't) he would be killed.