Friday, August 11, 2006

Noteworthy

So 200-something Israeli soldiers held 300-something Lebanese soldiers (ISF, army, special units, other security people…) hostage for quiet some time at the Lebanese barracks in Jdaidet Marje’youn. There is not enough in the media yet. More will follow, I guess. Considering the bombing and fighting in my hometown, Khiam, in the last few days, I really hope the 15,000 soldiers called by the army will have a bit more guts in them.

21 comments:

Lirun said...

this war is getting wierder by the second..

i think my government is on some hilucinagenic..

hoping its ends soon and peace prevails..

lirun
from telaviv
www.emspeace.blogspot.com

Bad Vilbel said...

I, for one, think the Lebanese Army did the right thing. They've been sitting out this fight, which is between Hezbollah and Israel. There is no reason for the Army to join the fray. If anything, it has shown that it is willing to be neutral, which goes a long way in conferring some legitimacy to its upcoming deployment to the South.

Andrey said...

lebanese liona, how old are you, 12?

Andrey said...

well its "a bit" complicated situation, and for lebanese army to fight just to aper dignified in your eyes, totaly against its goverments comands, and without thinking what they act can do to the situation is (can't find the needed word here).
and : "you take people hostage because HB trapped you in the village and you had no way out" - looks like you totaly know what happened there.

Andrey said...

you can take your revenge here:

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:)

Andrey said...

lebanese liona:
2 simple questions to check, that you realy are not 12 year old girl:
1) The solution for the ODE f'(x)=f(x).
2)The fomula for the Lagrangian.
Realy, you know its Internet...

root cause said...

lebnese liona said...

You talk to the average american back home and believe me you are lower on their list then the arabs, the thing is they realize the strength of your lobby and know that there is nothing that they can do about it.


Listen here liona, i have had it with your bullshit propaganda. I am in the US, and don't drag my ass into this filth that you are spewing. I don't know what poll u are referring to, but no doubt it is some far-left souce. Your blind hatred repulses me. I truley hope you go back to Leb. and join your "resistance". I sure don't want you back in my country. And before you call me a racist jew, I am cathlic like your poor spouse. (If you are indeed married) I frankly don't believe a word you say. For a self-proclaimed "educated" man, you sure are ignorant on many facts.

btw my stance is the absolute quickest way to prolonged peace in this conflict.

root cause said...

LOL @ liona....good!!! As I stated...tired of listening to your filth. But now mysteriously your heart is full of love instead of hate...give me a break. I hope it is true, but we'll see.

hoping for the best...but expecting the worse.

root cause said...

loli...again u r the solid voice of reason. thanks for that.

liona...if it is TRUELY your intention for peace then I will retract my earlier post, but your previous posts were full of ridiculous statements and very racist comments. I would very much like a calm discussion aimed at intelligently resolving this conflict, and of course updates on what is happening that you can't get on pathetic US mainstream media.

praying for peace

root cause said...

Loli...I do genuinely appreciate your stance. That is why I stated that I would very much like a calm and intelligent discussion. His previous posts were not like that at all, which sent my emotions racing. I have since calmed down, and would appreciate comprehensive constructive dialog. Thanks again Loli. Your comments always find me well.

Again...praying for peace.

Andrey said...

if you want to read arabic sites, and don't speak arabic, use this:
http://www.google.com/translate_t

root cause said...

apology accepted liona...i hope we can move forward from this point on. and btw...i am truely sorry for all the suffering on both sides, and i do understand your feeling of helplessness. And if the IDF did bomb the convoy, (have not heard that) this is one more very urgent reason that diplomacy must work...and work NOW. I too apologize to you if I offended.

still praying for peace

root cause said...

amen yuval...very well said!!!!

Lirun said...

wow

what a turnaround..

i think it was loli that said to me a few days ago that even the foul comments are a positive sign because at least people are wanting to communicate..

this post demonstrates it perfectly..

lebnese liona and i have sparred before and she always reiterates her wish for peace.. but when her emotions run high - you´d never guess that she wished our region well..

too all those that confuse the blog world with the battle field.. i personally forgive you for the insults and nasty things said.. i know that you just want us to hear your pain and assure you that most people who are smart enough to be able to type a sentence (which for most is not in their mother tongue) are probably smart enough to recognise your pain..

hoping we can change the nature of these spaces and start clarifying to the world that we are not just about venting and that our region wants peace..

wishing it comes soon

take care every one and be safe

lirun
www.emspeace.blogspot.com
hoping peace drains these blogs soon and that we are all out enjoying our lives again

Lirun said...

omer i disagree

i think there is a very angry cycle in the world that is fueled by islamic fundamentalism and then spurred by anti middle eastern racism in turn..

islam has a really bad name..

the pr running on the essence of islam is so negative.. because peace does not attract media coverage - it is seen as non-event.. boring.. mundane..

it saddens me because its not fair..

i have met many great muslims that are nothing like the tarnished reputation their culture now carries in our midst..

its everyone´s loss

wishing peace for all people or all religion

lirun
www.emspeace.blogspot.com
it´s our birthright and our duty

Lirun said...

lebnese

thank you

thats very kind..let me assure that i have a proper and full education..

i agree with omer that we have lived in peace before.. what i dont agree about is that islam´s name has suffered a bad century..

allow me to recommend you start some yoga and fresh fruit juices and if you´re sporty then some surfing ;)

lirun
www.emspeace.blogspot.com

root cause said...

liona,

i feel that the reason the US administration still labels HA as a terrorist orginazation is due to the fact that they killed 241 marines back in the 80's in a suicide bombing. while that was a long time ago, you just don't forget about such matters.

on a related topic, i have done some research on the religion of islam, but i have yet to find any worth-while info on the feud between shia and sunni. can you please explain to me why you there is such animosity between the two factions? just curious.

praying the resolution is accepted and follows on both sides.

root cause said...

thank you liona....you explained that well...i still don't understand how there is still so much violence between the two after hundreds of years, but that is off topic.

with regards to HA do you have a link to that time article. if not no big deal i can search for it.

and i completely agree with you in regards to the israeling children signing the shells. it is a two way street with regards to teaching our kids hate. As a father, it made me sick to see that photo. ultimately, it should be everyone's gola to leave this world BETTER than we found it for our children's sake, regardless of your religion or beliefs.

i still can't believe we are having a meaningful conversation...this is truely great!! i just wish our world leaders would blog!!! it could truely be a much better world.

still praying for peace

root cause said...

and thank you loli...i know in my case you fascilitated that understanding!!

wishing you all peace sooner rather than later!!

Lirun said...

liona

the kids signing the missiles wrote in english.. it said "to nasralla with love"

i personally found it distasteful but in the context of a distasteful war it seemed consistent..

as someone who oneday intends to be a parents i shall educate my kids (inshalla ill have some) not to mix irony and sarcasm with war and death at the expense of others..

i find it disrespectful.. i guess people in fear deal with it in different ways.. some laugh and some cry and some yell and hate whereas some seek to resolve the cause..

i have the luxury of sitting far enough from the conflict not to worry on a daily basis about sirens so its probably a bit easier for me to exercise my free thought and be reasonable.. maybe i too - if i was a terrified kid would want to feel that i was participating..

i´ll tell you a secret though.. i much prefer a kid to scribble on a missile than through a molotov cocktail at a soldier and stand in the middle of a skirmish..

either way.. the media - slightly scum sucking so to speak - live off the dirt.. what to do?

wishing us all peace

lirun
telaviv
www.emspeace.blogspot.com

root cause said...

hey omer,

i understand what you are saying, but i took liona's comment as that neither side is blameless in regards to teaching hate to our kids. to varying degrees, i think it is done in every nation. but we have to power...over time... to reverse this cycle. the entire world needs to be a place of tolerance and understanding. i'm not saying we have to like each other, just have some perspective of others views.