The Tripoli Port has been shelled by Israelis!
OH MY GOD!!! THAT'S MY HOME CITY. MY FAMILY IS IN THE CAR RIGHT NOW LEAVING THE CITY UP TO THE MOUNTAINS. THEY WERE SCARED WHEN I LAST CALLED THEM. I SHOULD CALL THEM RIGHT NOW TO DOUBLE CHECK ON THEM. YA ALLAH!!!!!
The Beirut port is also being hit!!!
Update: Al-Manara, next to AUB in Beirut, is being shelled right now!!!!!!!!!!! It's getting worse.
Update 2: BEIRUT LIGHTHOUSE DESTROYED!!! ALL LEBANON NOW IS UNDER ATTACK!!!!
Update 3: Jounieh and Aamchit ports have been hit.
Update 4: A raid targets the army radar base in Wajh al-Hajar in the northern city of Batroun. Casualties reported.
Update 5: One Lebanese soldier died and three wounded. Okay, so now the Lebanese Army is being attacked. And also all the Lebanese ports. In Tripoli's port they hit wheat reserves. I'm sure Hizbullah fighters are not hiding there. What about Jounieh or Aamchit? They are touristic ports.
Update 6: Army establishments in the Beirut port were hit. The Hamat airport in the north was hit also. Amr Mousa the Secretary General of the Arab League is speaking right now.
Update 7: The Arab League has decided to "help" Lebanon. How? The Arab Ministers have came to a conclusion that they have all dropped the Peace Negotiations long time ago. Therefore, they decided to revive the negotiations by taking the issue to the UN Security Council. Go figure!
Update 8: Our President went from Baabda to Faqra (for "rest"). While PM Seniora is making his incessant calls and meetings. Our President is pathetic.
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alla ma3kon
Nasrallah declared war on Israel. What did you expect? They weren't listening.
I pray for you family safety.
Doha, I pray your family is safe. I hope this will end as soon as possible, for the sake of all of us, on both sides of the border.
they just struck the beirut port too, twice, but it didn't appear too severe (saw it with my own eyes, plus all the smoke was cleared within four mins). they probably just aren't done yet...
sorry if you guys have a language policy, but motherFUCKERS!
I hope that your family is OK, and I really am sorry about those bombings, but we must do it. We can't just let the Hizballa attack us without responding...
CNN just reported Port of Jounieh is under attack. Can someone confirm it?
VB
Best of Luck to your Family.
Please spare us the "we must do it". Not when our families are being shelled. Akhoulmanyoukeh.
we must do it
I hope your family stays safe. God keep them.
I hope they are ok! :(
I think your military command is as criminal as the armed group they're trying to decimate. That doesn't justify us wanting to eliminate every general does it? Or maybe it does. You ppl are now giving us reasons to "must do it" as well....
Bridges in north lebanon are being hit.
You want a cavernman reaction to this? We'll give it to you.
this is all about the illuminati starting WW3,either they are gonna sacrifice israel, or israel will hit syria, and then iran will get involved, and then the US, and then russia and china
America is with both Lebanon and Israel. Both of your countries deserve your own sovereignity without being held hostage by radical sectarian madmen. We pray for your freedom to live in peace without fear.
I am sitting in cairo & thank you a lot for your updates. allah yikoun maakoun.I am furious and helpless, what can we do ?
micha
I saw the jounieh port being hit with my own eyes. I swear I saw the bombs falling from the planes!
Surreal... SURREAL!
I was on the phone with a friend in Achrafieh when Port Beyrouth was hit, and later on the phone with a friend in Amchit when the port there was hit.
I'm boiling...
VB
You have to return the kidnapped soldiers and stop shelling Katjusha rockets on Israeli cities, it is that simple, until then we will bomb you as long as necessary.
To all the "sorry, we have to do it" Israelis:
The fanatics and extremists are the IDF. Akhwat al-manyukah (pardon my French). What on earth does hitting a port in the heart of Christian Lebanon have to fucking do with fucking Hizballah?
If a civil war breaks out, you reckless, arrogant fucks, the only emergent state in Lebanon will be an ISLAMIC STATE! All the moderates will leave you nitwits! Then you and the Islamic state can go on destroying each other, for your deserve each other, you scum.
"I am furious and helpless, what can we do ?"
Try sterilizing yourself, stop breeding, read something besides the Koran, and take a bath
What makes me boil even more is the "most trusted name in the news, CNN" reporting on the events.
You'd think life is so simple. Black, white. Evil, Good. "We're uprooting the evil tooth, it's painful, but it's ok". Seeing families and children and your country charred and burning is beyond "painful", it stirs violent reactions in the most moderate of us.
CNN and the rest of the media are either dumb, or they want do dumb their audience down, or both. Not dumb, but rather inhuman. I want to see the people saying "it must be done" go through an air raid and see death in their own eyes, and still feel good about the "must be done" rhetoric.... Just sickening.
N.Emmak
Doha, we are with both Lebanon and Israel. Must find a way to peace.
We must do it, your families are being shelled. You included this terrorist organization in your government and the vermin must be erradicated.
Anon 12:23 - Go back to your Cartoon Network show, it's almost your bedtime...
I hope Israel does not stop until they reach Iran and topple that maniac who, when he DOES get the nuclear bomb, will have free will to do as he wishes to the entire region..... and for that matter, the entire world!
"Seeing families and children and your country charred and burning is beyond "painful", it stirs violent reactions in the most moderate of us."
well the option for us is seeing Israeli children charred and burning. I have already seen that. No offense I would rather it be yours than mine.
Please stop this naive "terrorist" description.... It's easy to justify actions if you can use labels as you please. The label applies to your own IDF as well, and to any armed group that believes killing civilians is justified means to reach a goal.
N.Sliltak
What on earth does hitting a port in the heart of Christian Lebanon have to fucking do with fucking Hizballah?
It keeps Hizbullah and the Iranians from escaping ... Roads, Airports, Petrol stations, etc.
I was listening to an Israelian TV and heard an official from CNESSET who declared that the whole people from Liban desserves what happens!
He also told the journalists that the problem wasn't only Hizzbullah, but the fact that Liban is an arab country and that you can't trust arabs, muslims or christians.
So, my friends, let's build a strong national resistance and bury the old quarels.
Israƫl, go home and pay for your crimes!!!!!!
Grandizer would like to take this opportunity to thank everyone at Lebanesebloggers for keeping us informed, you have been the best media outlet for most of us (at least I know that for my friends and I). My best wishes to all of you and to your families.
Anon 12:26. What you folks don't understand is that this is just an episode, the children of the ppl the IDF is murdering will grow up with immense hate towards you, and will make your children suffer.... How on earth do you think violence would solve the problem??
Robert
Anon 12:28
Very deep understanding of Lebanese geography, arthole. Go back to your strategy video games.
anon 12:31 and the people you have been landing rockets on will grow up to have an intense hatred of you.
How on earth do you think violence would solve the problem??
Then why are there suicide bombers killing civilians in Israel?
IDF are doing the dirty work you were not willing to do. So shut the fuck up whining about your families. You avoided taking any responsibility for Lebanese democracy, now you harvest the results.
A view from Nothern Europe.
Anon 12:32. Perfect then, problem solved, isn't it? Don't you think there should be a better way to solve this problem, to both parties advantage, better than this sado-maso senseless violence? Ceasefire maybe?
Robert
jay, what, israelis took your virginity?
"Lebanon was Israels best chance for peace"
Until you attacked.
And violence is the only option when both sides hate. Dont give me that rainbows and sunshine stuff. Our violence makes you hate us. Your violence makes us hate you. Only option is war and surrunder.
My family is also in Tripoli. What I'm concerend about now is the news that the wheat reserves have been hit. It seems they want to starve the entire population.
Anon 12:34 (both of you) ... those are not lebanese; your problem is with the palestinians. And speaking of dirty work, if it involved bringing our country back to the medieval ages, then heck no we won't do it; we're more civilized than that. At least we were, until you stirred the primal reactions in us...
"Ceasefire maybe?"
What and let you rebuild you offensive capabilities and attack us again? Pardon me while I decline that ride.
Robert: ceasefire doesn't show to the world how large your balls are! Isreal: really, we know your dick is bigger than ours. Ours is so small, it's almost a vagina, you don't have to flap it in our face. I think our whole region knows it. So please, use a bit of vaseline on us, dont' just ram it in, you know?
Once again a dispraportion response from Israel, the slaughrter of innocence is NEVER justifed.
I love that arguement.
If a guy is raping my wife, by your logic, my only response could be to rape him. That's rich.
IDF is a bunch of racists butchers who are commiting gruesome crimes on our children. I'm a christian but I sware you that I prefer dying with muslims comrades fighting IDF than complaining again and again oin the "good old Beirout"? "Good od Beirout" does not exist anymore. Let's fight the invaders!
Anon 12:39 ... There is no "game over". It won't end even if you burn Lebanon to the ashes. This is life, reality, not a stupid sim videogame. Senseless violence will keep scars for generations to come. We're going to be neighbours for decades, unless you have plans to pack and leave. This is not a way for you to build a future for your kids and mine.
Robert
Robert, you're too smart and logical for most people here.
Yes fight the invaders. Grab a gun, put down you mouse and head out. Stop letting Hezbollah write checks you can't cash. The faster this gets over the better for all of us. By all means defend your country, thats what Israel is doing. You have every right to do the same, we will see who wins.
It's so easy to bark when you have F16's and nukes.
Doha or anyone who is connected to this blog -
Can you make IP numbers visible to all? That might stop some of the anon hate talk.
If IDF would target civilians, then here would be much less number of comments and Berut would be a sweet memory.
You're ignorant. Our cities is under fire too. Except Katyusha doesn't choose where to hit. Read the news.
No country will tolerate attacks on its borders and cities.
You want peace and quiet? Fine. But we will not pay the price.
I give a flying **ck about your internal politics and tourist seasons, if my brothers attacked from your countrys territory.
Its not about "we have to do it". Its about "we'll do whatever needs to be done".
And i trust IDF on that matter.
Robert,
Why is it up to us (Israel) to stop this. Why can't you release the soldiers, lay down your rockets and stop the agression in northern Israel? If Lebanon did this it would stop. We have put up with Hezbollahs attacks in Northern Israel for too long. No this is't a video game, Israeli children are at the other end of those rockets too.
IDF is attacking lebanese almy in Batroun!!! One Lebanese soldier is dead. The whole military position is under fire!
People on this board seem to be surprised that Israel is targetting things that don't have the word "Hezbollah" on it. Well, that's the downside of allowing terrorists to roam free in a country. It legitimizes targetting of anything that is OR could be used as a platform for war-making. Maybe the former Beirut lighthouse was the location from where the Silkworm missile was fired yesterday.
In any case, Lebanon will no longer be used as an outpost for Iran after this is all said and done.
"It's so easy to bark when you have F16's and nukes."
And it is soooo easy to claim the victim when you don't.
Oh, wow. Were you guys this pissed off when Hezbollah was firing rockets from your land into Israel? Or that was cool with you till Israel reponded? Such hypocrites!
Jay,
"srael started this war years ago and always cries victum..."
Did Israel start bombing Lebanon before or after Hezbollah kidnapped 2 soldiers and fired off rockets at it? The violence will never end until you guys start facing the reality of the situation. Kick hezbollah out!
"I mourn for my family and friends and thus I've lost both Muslums and Jew."
That's war Jay. Suck huh?
You hate us, we hate you. The only option is the barrel of a gun. If neither of us is going to stop hating then we need to accept war and that people are going to die. I am sorry if you find that cruel and uncaring. I am a realist. Currently we can not live side by side in peace. Surrender and we can talk peace. We will not surrender so it is up to you. Surrender or fight and try to make us surrender. That is war.
Nasrallah promised to use his navy (he has some??), this is probably the logic behind the ports attacks
"America is with both Lebanon and Israel. Both of your countries deserve your own sovereignity without being held hostage by radical sectarian madmen. We pray for your freedom to live in peace without fear."
oh, the propaganda.
Jay:
Israel started this war years ago and always cries victum, you are nothing with the United States prostituting itself for you. I mourn for my family and friends and thus I've lost both Muslums and Jew. i am a Christian as was said in another post, I'll die with my Muslum brothers before abdicating the war criminals.
Of course. Israel is to blame for all. Easy aint it? Always been easy, always will.
You've never done nothing to prevent current crisis which started with abduction of 2 israeli soldiers, killing another 8. All in cross-border raid.
While shelling our northern cities to divert attention.
Of course its our fault.
Now, you can go and "die with your Muslim brother" as you say.
You are tool.
"America is with both Lebanon and Israel. Both of your countries deserve your own sovereignity without being held hostage by radical sectarian madmen. We pray for your freedom to live in peace without fear."
oh, the propaganda.
1:03 PM "
This is not propaganda. I am a caring human being living in Dallas, TX and I am talking to you from my heart.
"Did Israel start bombing Lebanon before or after Hezbollah kidnapped 2 soldiers and fired off rockets at it? The violence will never end until you guys start facing the reality of the situation. Kick hezbollah out! "
stan - you too seem to be a victim of IITS - "Israeli Inaccurate Timeline Syndrome."
hezbollah took 2 israeli soldiers, in order to bargain for the 3 lebanese israel illegally holds in its country (but you don't respect other nations, or international law).
the rockets came after you bombed lebanon's infrastructure - including the airport, an electricity plant, 2 military (not hezbollah - lebanese) bases, the port, and southern lebanon.
israel. perpetual victims - and always "explaining." this needs no further explanation. your survival isn't worth the death of thousands of others. your life just isn't worth more than another's life. plain and simple.
Doha,
Thanks for the updates. Please know the vast majority on your site are not wasting time or energy with the comment board. Keep up the good work.
Bush has pushed hard for Syria to get its grubby paws off Lebanon, and is obviously working hard to topple the Iranian mullahs, so don't slime his intentions re: Lebanon.
Bush, America, and Israel all want a peaceful, democratic, SECULAR Lebanon.
Hezbollah, Syria and Iran all want an armed camp from which to launch rockets against the "Zionist entity."
Regular Lebanese are obviously getting caught in the middle, which is unfortunate, but this was going to happen sooner or later. Better now than in five years when Iran has nukes.
hey, dallas - what does the gov't pay you to spew your unbelievable shit? i'd like to see you running for your life, as your murderers say "peace to you, we hope you will soon live in freedom from oppression."
Jay,
"...but watching your country and your people suffer at the hands of foreigners..."
Understood, but place blame where blame is due. You seem like a reasonable guy, so tell me - what's Israel supposed to do when Lebanon refuses to take control of the bordre and hezbollah keeps rocketing Israel and kidnapping its solders? What's the solution?
"israel never worked with lebanon or showed a ounce of patience."
No patience? This is not the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, or 8th time Hezbollah has rocketted Israel. Looks like Lebanon was taking that patience for granted?
"hey, dallas - what does the gov't pay you to spew your unbelievable shit? i'd like to see you running for your life, as your murderers say "peace to you, we hope you will soon live in freedom from oppression."
I am so sorry your heart is so hardened. I only meant to comfort you. I am an independent voter, speaking as one human being to another and do not speak for any government.
Okay Doha . Just trying help ... and feeling helpless. I don't like it. I imagine you have must the same feeling only times one billion.
I'm from Houston Texas and I too am speaking from the heart.
there is nowhere else to place blame on the (virtually unanswered) destruction of lebanon than on israel.
no excuses.
no "explaining."
no victim-flaunting.
israel is responsible for israel's actions. there is no alternate explanation here. everything else - is a lie.
Hey, from USA here. My thoughts are with you, and I hope you all get out safe. This is insane, I've read all the points and counter-points, and the news, there is no justification for Israel to do what they are doing imho.
Other than the fact they are using it as an excuse...
Jay: "Childish post, if I must die then I will, I fear for my children not myself"
You said it. Not me.
And believe it or not, I fear for our children too. Thats why i want us to retaliate and not just sit on our hands, waiting for another kidnapping or shelling.
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To those comparing IDF attack to Hizballah rockets:
More than 100 dead in Lebanon.
More than 300 wouned.
Civilians.
In 3 days.
I do not see any grounds for comparison given the number of casualties.
Besides, aren't Hizballah "terrorists"?
What does that make the IDF?
21 civilians died today, 12 of them children, because the IAF struck a DIRECT hit at a van filled with refugees escaping a village. Not any village. A village showered with leaflets by Israel in warning. The IDF knew there will be refugees leaving the village.
What does that make the IDF? Huh?
What does that make you?
I am sorry, but you sink waaaay below Hizballah.
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"I am so sorry your heart is so hardened. I only meant to comfort you. I am an independent voter, speaking as one human being to another and do not speak for any government."
you're about as independent as a robot.
my heart isn't "hardened" - how SANCTIMONIOUS of you. how - "drinking coffee in your safe kitchen" you are. how brainwashed from american propaganda you are.
my heart, unlike yours, is alive and acutely bleeds for lebanon. i know destruction when i see it, and i'm not blind to which hands have blood on them. that's israel and the US.
israel has and continues to decimate lebanon, with the use of US backing and military supplies. and you say "americans are on the side of lebanon?" what are you smoking? get a clue.
CNN is broadcasting the speech of PM Seniora right now. I swear that the guy translating seems illiterate. Of all the english speaking lebanese, why does CNN have to choose this guy to translate?
From USA here again...
And in addedum, if the Israel army really wanted to take on Hezbollah, they would have worked with the Lebanese government and made coordinated raids. From reading the Lebanese PM's comments, and everybody's thoughts, I don't think anyone would of been against a coordinated ground assault without random shelling..
But that is not what Israel wants. Punishing an entire civilian populace for what a few do is by no means justified...Perspective wise if a radical element from the USA (and believe me we have quite a few) were to go across the border and shell Mexico, I wouldn't feel they were justified to start nuking or bombing the USA (though that is an impossibility, nonetheless).
To Suha:
When dog bites i dont bite it back - i shoot it.
So spare me the comparsion.
It is as stupid as to say that British were war criminals during WW2, because in their bombings of Berlin died more covilians, then in German bombings of London.
"Besides, aren't Hizballah "terrorists"?
What does that make the IDF?
21 civilians died today, 12 of them children, because the IAF struck a DIRECT hit at a van filled with refugees escaping a village. Not any village. A village showered with leaflets by Israel in warning. The IDF knew there will be refugees leaving the village.
What does that make the IDF? Huh?
What does that make you?
I am sorry, but you sink waaaay below Hizballah."
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that's it. it's simple - the whole world sees it, except those who bush put in his pocket yesterday. unfortunately, we have to fight this propaganda spin machine, that somehow makes israeli terrorism "good" and lebanon's defense of itself against israeli terrorism "bad."
"and slaughtered (Sabra and Shatila)defensless people"
Let me remind you that Sabra and Shatila people were actually slaughtered by you, lebanese.
Jay,
"We do not have the means to take the border", then I guess Lebanon is not a sovereign nation if it doesn't have the means to secure its border. You still haven't told me what you expect Israel to do while its gets rocketed and its soldiers kidnapped. Is there any other country in the world that would sit idly buy while it was getting attacked?
"and slaughtered (Sabra and Shatila)defensless people. " - weren't they killed by Lebanese Christians?
"bombing innocent Lebanese serves No purpose.", I don't think that's the purpose of the Israeli operation. Arab media loves to inflame the "arab street". Remember Jenin? The massacre that wasn't?
anon 1:19
as I remeber it was Christian Falangas who slaughtered Palestinians in sabra & Shatila but you really enjoy repeating that lie? don't you?
just like now when you insist on forgetting that you declared war on Israel last wednesday when armed forces from your country crossed the border and ambushed an Israeli patrol under the cover of rocket fire on Israeli village.
It's OK we are NOT forgetting the truth.
There is one guy saying the truth in all this , one and only , good guy , sincere and speaks from his heart with his love to his country and the modesty and seeking a solution for everyone ... this guy is PM Saniora . But good guys in real ever win !?!? I doubt , but every true lebanese should have his attitude . God bless Saniora and all True Sincere men in Lebanon ... Not the people who lie and use the emotion od arab and muslim to do what others want !!
Peace !
Oversaw the massacre? What does that mean?
Don't ya love it? Christians killing Muslims, Jews are to blame.
Hezbollah rockets Israel (for the Xth time), kidnaps two soldiers, Israel strikes back and its Israel is the aggresor.
Sigh..
here's another idea borne of IITS (israeli inaccurate timeline syndrome)...
"if lebanon was a sovereign country, it would have controlled hizbollah from what they did." nevermind that israel ON THE FIRST DAY bombed 2 lebanese millitary bases.
there is no need for explanation, israel. there is no reason to go back to any history. there is no room for your lame justifications of your heinous acts against a sovereign nation. sovereign doesn't mean able to kick your ass; sovereign means IT'S NOT YOURS TO FUCK WITH.
Yes, Israel "oversaw" (whatever that means), but Lebanese actually MURDERED in sabra shatila. And now the MURDERERS themselves are sitting back and judging Israel for not stopping them.
I don't recommend you listen to much to our Knesset, since you may hear from there also voices to destroy Lebanon, but also calls to destroy Israel...
It is ours to fuck with when you cross the UN drawn border to attack a patrol and kill IDF soldiers. You sovereignly choose to go to war.
anonymous,
Excellent point about the "sovereign nation" concept. And when one sovereign nation (Lebanon) rockets another (Israel) and kidnaps its soldiers, that translates to war.
"just like now when you insist on forgetting that you declared war on Israel last wednesday when armed forces from your country crossed the border and ambushed an Israeli patrol under the cover of rocket fire on Israeli village.
It's OK we are NOT forgetting the truth."
"declared war on israel?" that's a BEAUTIFUL spin on israel's inability to deal with the issues confronting any nation. such as - the illegal holding of other nations' citizens; such as - the unwillingness to do anything other than OPPRESS palestinians and STEAL their land...
israel - the biggest pussies on the planet. you don't deserve the land given you. you have been the most deplorable stewards of that land, and have been the biggest hassle and headache to the world. you can't negotiate your way out of a paper sack, and aggress from some perpetual lie of victimhood. you've played that card for the last time - the world is OVER your aggression.
Before calling yourself "a sovereign nation" take care of your land. Lebanon isn't a sovereign nation yet, it's just a place near israel where terrorists are deployed.
All other people - just happen to live in there. At least this is how it looks from outside.
Fight Hizbollah and take your land back - then you will be called "a sovereign nation".
It is a damn shame that people cant live side by side in peace.
It is pitiful what you put your children through. It is the children I pray for.
American Lady
sovereign means IT'S NOT YOURS TO FUCK WITH .
So why did you started the war with a sovereign Israel then?
You can't really have it both ways. Either you are sovereign and take full responsibility for what happened on the border, or do not take repsonsibility and blaim Hizbollah as if they were some aliens who just landed from Mars and immediately started this mess. And that means you not sovereign if in reality you are controlled not by your government, but by some evil force.
>>>there is no room for your lame justifications of your heinous acts against a sovereign nation.
Lebanon is not a sovereign nation. You are shopkeepers and merchants beholden to the Hesbollah mafia, and your government is a pretend government in name only. You are a fancy Somalia, not a sovereign nation. So shut up and stand aside while a real sovereign nation intervenes to protect the lives of its own citizens.
rockets weren't fired until israel bombed lebanon in more than 100 places.
bullies, dressed as victims...
there is no justification for your actions. your paranoia and inability to negotiate and diplomatically live - that's the world's problem now? thanks, assholes.
your like an annoying baby that won't quit crying. at a certain point, shut the motherfuck up and DEAL. GROW UP.
"such as - the illegal holding of other nations' citizens;"
You must be talking about the kidnapped Israeli soldiers, right?
"such as - the unwillingness to do anything other than OPPRESS palestinians and STEAL their land..."
Now you are talkinga bout Jordan who stole the West Bank from the Palestinians, lost it in the war to Israel in 1967, but yet didn't relinquish its claims to the land till 1987.
"perpetual lie of victimhood. "
Now you are talking about Palestinians. By their count Israelis have killed 8 billion of them.
To all the ture patriotic Lebanese who claim here that you don't have the strength to kick out Hizbullah- If that was true, how come you managed to kick out Syria in the Cedar Revolution? You've showed that Lebanese public opinion is strong enough to do miracles. Don't you think it's time for a second Cedar Revolution against Hizbullah?
Israeli Peace Lover
israel - the biggest pussies on the planet.
How can you explain the fact biggest pussies in the world time after time defeated overwhelming forces of fearless and proud arabs?
Doesn't look like a behaviour of pussies. Or maybe you arabs are so ful of shit that even world biggest pussies can easily beat you.
hey, american lady - you're not innocent - this invasion is backed and supported by the american government. blood is on your hands - don't get too comfortable.
Right now we are negotiating the same way you do. See if this sounds familiar.
Israel negotiates and withdrawls from Lebanon: Hezbollah moves in and shells civilians northern Israel for 20 years
Israel negotiates and withdrawls from Gaza and removes all jews in gaza Hamas wins elections and atacks Israel.
Hamas captures IDF soldiers and demands to negotiate a release.
Hezbollah captures IDF soldiers and demands to negotiate a release.
Israel bombs the fuck out of gaza and lebanon and demands a release of IDF prisoners.
Everytime we negotiate with you, it never ends. Why negotiate? Why not just kill every last one of you that wants to harm us?
you would be nothing without the United States, I give you credit though, you appear to own the US, that was a great coup.
So we kicked your ass in 1948 and 1956 with the active help of US. Wow, that is quite a revelation.
I hope Israeli bomb will kill you tonight ignoran bastard.
Yes Isreal owns the United States and Jews control the world. Kepp drinking the kool aid.
The US sides with us because we are right. Even Saudi Arabia says it is Hezbollahs fault this shit got started.
Sucks when the biggest backer of Muslim extremism is not on your side.
Jay,
"you would be nothing without the United States"
I got an idea. Why doesn't Lebanon kick out Hizbollah and get friendly with United States, and maybe then you guys could be "something" like Israel? In fact, why doesn't the whole Arab world follow the path becoming "something".
"you would be nothing without the United States, I give you credit though, you appear to own the US, that was a great coup."
as an american citizen, i can say this appears to be true. but - for some strange reading, try www.newamericancentury.org. this might illuminate the US/Israel alliance and ultimate goals.
Here's what an Egyptian general said of fighting the pussy Israelis:
"This idiot Nasrallah. He is so funny. He keeps on issuing threats, he has no idea what he is talking about. What Israel is doing to him now is just gentle padding on the shoulders. Abou Shakha dah didn't see what we saw. Israel fought on 3 fronts in 1967 and it was hell. I was there, I saw it all. He has no tanks, no boats, he has nothing except a few toys he got from Iran and it seems abu shakha dah don't know that Israel confronted 3 of the most powerful armies in the region at the same time. If Israel wanted to brutally crush him it can do so in 1 hour."
http://www.bigpharaoh.com/2006/07/14/dad-weighs-in/
Jay,
Here's something: Go pick up a gun if you hate Israel so much. You seem to think everyone else should be doing that. Back up your words or you'll appear to be a bigger pussy than you claim Israel is.
Jay- in 1948 the US didn't help us at all, and still we finished off 5 armies.
But that's not the point. As an Israeli I definitely agree that Israeli policies are not always moral and/or intelligent. The occupation of the West Bank is stupid and immoral, the failure to strengthen Abu Mazen and moderate Palestinians and many other examples. But this situation is different. I think the IDF enjoys 100% backing from the Israeli public this time. It is sad, but we simply can't keep on one more day with HA on are border, initiating conflict whenever they want, with zero provocation.
"The US sides with us because we are right. "
HA! that would assume the US is right. and US-world aggression ain't right.
i think we can call this "the unholy crusades." thanks putin!
Hey anonymous 1:42 PM
Go ahead and put the blood of your people on my hands if that makes you feel better. Maybe you and other adults should of stood up for your country and not allowed Hizbullah to make your country a battleground!
I do support my country, maybe you should try supporting yours!!
American Lady
by pussies, i don't mean your military strength - i mean your moral character and your inability to do anything OTHER than exert military strength. your attack on lebanon is largely unanswered, as you knew it would be. pussies.
It seems that because of your civil war trauma you gave up on your sovereignity. If you don't act against HA, all the Christians in Lebanon should pack their bags, or brace themselves to live in dhimma status.
from Israel
by pussies, i don't mean your military strength - i mean your moral character and your inability to do anything OTHER than exert military strength. your attack on lebanon is largely unanswered, as you knew it would be. pussies.
I wonder what this passage tells about your moral character and understanding of the world affairs?
Anyone wants to diagnose?
"thanks putin!"
Putin killed over a 100,000 civilians in Chechnya. Yea, thanks Putin!
"mean your moral character and your inability to do anything OTHER than exert military strength. "
Uhm. Hezbollah attacked Israel, remember? Not the other way around.
Also, Israel has research and development facilities for Motrolla, Intel, etc,etc,etc. What about tyrant arab states? Anything other then hating Israel? Anything?
hey - here's what the pussies of israel have done most recently:
they dropped propaganda leaflets on a village in southern lebanon, stating:
“is hezbollah helping the situation of lebanon?
hezbollah is damaging lebanon!” with a graphic of the head of hezbollah pictured as a serpent.
(hmmm... sounds awfully like a lot of internet responses here! what a coincidence!!!)
as people were reading the leaflets in the street, they were bombed.
this just reported by CNN.
Yes the US is evil too. They are so powerful they are the root of all evil on the planet. More kool aid?
Answer this. Why does the average middle eastern person's life suck so bad considering the BILLIONS of petro dollars that have flooded into the middle east? Because your leaders build palaces and keep the street poor, uneducated, and pissed at America.
The most frustrating thing is that I'm positive that most real Lebanese would love to chill here on the beaches of Tel Aviv and vice versa. Lebanese and Israelies share a lot of similiarities...
What about tyrant arab states? Anythng other then hating Israel? Anything?
They invented a suicide terrorism :)
america pisses people off all by itself - it doesn't need any help from "governments." by the way, you should know a little more about the arab nations whose lives you criticize. to you, it's a bunch of wrapped-up people in the desert with a camel, a persian rug, and a thirsty palate. wake up.
america's the nation with the propaganda... it's gone from a #2 freest press in the world (a distinction they've had for decades) to #22, since bush took office.
Jay,
"war is always the first and only option with israel."
I thought you were a reasonable guy, but it doesn't seems like you are. I asked you a question which you chose to ignore and then go on and make stupid statements like the one above..
I'll ask it again:
You seem like a reasonable guy, so tell me - what's Israel supposed to do when Lebanon refuses to take control of the bordre and hezbollah keeps rocketing Israel and kidnapping its solders? What's the solution?
Jay- I'm not implying you should leave. You're the original people of Lebanon, everybody knows that. I meant that if HA is not dismantled, and they'll gain power to export the Iranian Revolution to Lebanon, then you should start packing cause life ain't gonna be good.
Praying for your safety.
From Israel
anon,
"They invented a suicide terrorism :)"
That's actually a genius invention. Think about it. Keep your people sexually repressed and then promise them 72 virgins if they blow themselves up. Unlimited supply of cannon fodder.
why is it, only when it comes to israel, time immemorial, that no one knows who aggressed first?
the international community has told you that you acted inappropriately to the situation. pure and simple. nevertheless - you continue to hit ALL of lebanon, even as it begs for you to stop, as it determines its entire country a disaster zone, and as there is absolutely no significant retaliation. there is no reason to continue, just as there was no reason to begin.
what's the matter - isn't syria and iran getting into it fast enough to blur those lines, too? after all, isn't that the plan?
israel - the world's most undeserving pain in the ass.
It is a question i long wanted to ask. Do you mulims like the idea of your daughter being a sexual slave for a suicide terrorist in your Paradise?
One theory is that HA attacked Israel to provoke the bombing of the civilian targets so many virgins would be killed and thus new would be terrorists don't have to worry if they indeed receive the promised treatment in the paradise.
anon,
"The international community has told you that you acted inappropriately to the situation."
Oh, please. Hezbollah has been rocketing Israel for the past few years and what did the international community do to stop them?
Nothing.
Someone please explain to me what is going on. I am confused. Israel's war is not with Lebanon, it is with Hezbollah. Why not destroy the Shia neighborhoods? Why shell the North? The Lebanese Christians have no connection to Hezbollah, do they?
Why not just warn residents in the South to evacuate, concentrate a massive attack on the Southern suburbs, reducing Shia neighborhoods to rubble, and making sure that the Hezbollah never again has a civilian support base in the South? Why bomb the Northern people that hate Hezbollah also?
"It is a question i long wanted to ask. Do you mulims like the idea of your daughter being a sexual slave for a suicide terrorist in your Paradise?"
idiot.
Jay,
"Diplomacy could have worked to free your soldier, why kill innocent civilians? "
You mean like the last time they kidnapped and killed Israeli soldiers? And then what? "Diplomacy" with terrorists doesn't work, because by negotiating with them you are validating and encouraging their tactics. Think about it. Do you really believe that if Israel negotiates with Hezbollah this time, Hezbollah will never rocket Israel again? Will never kidnap more soldiers and issue new demands? And then what's your advice? Negotiate again?
Like I said. I understand your frustration, but place blame where it's due.
my answer to why israel is bombing northern lebanon -
it's whole premise that it's attacking because 2 soldiers were captured by hizbollah is a LIE. it's ruse of "defense" is a LIE.
blame where it's due is on israel.
no one else's hand is on the trigger. israel is responsible for israel's actions. period. hey stan - take responsibility for yourself and your country. quit blaming others for your own actions. it is the mark of immaturity.
Jay,
"I do, Israel and HA. you have more in common with them then you think"
If that's what you really think then I feel sorry for you. You won't be able to better off your country until you take a long sober look at what's what.
anonymous,
"no one else's hand is on the trigger. israel is responsible for israel's actions."
That's right. And Lebanon is responsible for its actions. It allows Hezbollah to operate freely, hence the consequences.
By the way, I am not an israeli.
im sorry for the losses on both sides.
im not with the "we must do it" statement.
its all crap...
Who cares about the kidnapped soldier anymore? Israel is finally doing what it should have done long ago.
Palestinians say they want peace, then they elect militant parties that vow the destruction of the Israeli state.
Kill em all already and start over. It's too late. The people there today have been brainwashed since birth to believe that Jews are sub humans that must die. They are tainted. They cannot be saved. They cannot be in the brotherhood of man with their prehistoric ways. We must evolve them out of our family.
Ok. Siniora asks for Intl. help controlling the south. I think we have to stop targetting infrastructure and attack HA ONLY.
I am sure that there are many others like me who could not bear to read all the way down this comment thread.
So I wan tot say, thank you for your updates. Sane people everywhere are horrified by what is happening there and pray for an immediate cessation of violence, which has NEVER solved one single problem in the ME, and has only dragged things on and on and on.
This does not have to turn into the 2nd 100 years war. It really doesn't.
I hate Hezbollah, but we are emerging from years of death and destruction and foreign occupation (israel and Syria) now you expect miracles. israel never worked with lebanon or showed a ounce of patience. the kid napping should not have happened nor should rockets be fired, but we did not yet have the resources to deal with Hezbollah and now you have assured us that we will not for many many more years.
Did Lebanon ever ask anyone for help in getting rid of Hezbollah? No. Instead it chose the appeasement route, not giving a damn about the attacks on Israel by these thugs. You are caught in the middle because you placed yourselves there instead of having the balls to choose sides. Now you are paying the price for that foolish decision.
Hi Punks,
First of all let me say this: fuck you!
Second thing, you fire at us, dance and give away candies on your streets when you kill and kidnap our soldiers, and NOW you
cry out like babies?! The least you can do is fight like men and if you can't, if you are as weak as you claim then don't start a fight that you can't finish.
And regarding this cowerdly asshole sweating pig - nasrallah (may he die of brain cancer - or even better an Israeli missile), let me give you an advice: KILL HIM.
Kul kalb biji yumo!
Fuck you very much.
The fun have just begun,
Israeli.
there is no room for your lame justifications of your heinous acts against a sovereign nation. sovereign doesn't mean able to kick your ass; sovereign means IT'S NOT YOURS TO FUCK WITH.
Exactly. So quit fucking with Israel and kick Hezbollah out. Ask for help if you lack the balls to do it yourselves.
you would be nothing without the United States, I give you credit though, you appear to own the US, that was a great coup.
And who pulls your strings, jay? Tehran? You can believe this shit if you like but if you can't stand up like a man and take your country back then quit whining like a little bitch.
Your hope may be fulfilled. I am sure that will bring you great comfort knowing me and my three children are dead. peace be with you as well.
Unlike asshole, I don't hope you are killed. For that matter I don't want any innocent Lebanese killed. Yet I also am tired of seeing Israel attacked and no one does anything about it. What I do want to see is that you wake the fuck up, jay. Your country has been taken over by Hezbollah. Take it back. You whine about the US helping Israel, too fucking bad. They are our friends. So is Egypt, which receives almost the same amount of aid as Israel does. Why not ask for a piece of the pie to get the funds to expel Hezbollah? Of course that takes balls...
by pussies, i don't mean your military strength - i mean your moral character and your inability to do anything OTHER than exert military strength. your attack on lebanon is largely unanswered, as you knew it would be. pussies.
Guess that makes you an even bigger pussy because you have yet to show the "moral character" to stand up against Hezbollah. Get some backbone and quit sqeauling like a bitch.
Deliver the two soldiers to Israel, along with Nasrallah's head in a sack, and I bet it's all over. That's all it would take to satisfy the Israelis. If you guys can't get that done, then I don't know what to say to you. Keep your heads down.
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