Peaceful Demonstrations to Stop the Violence TODAY:
Washington, DC - 5-7pm at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave., NW - in front of the White House.
New York (Manhattan) - 4-6pm at UN headquarters First Ave between 42nd St. and 48th St.
University of Berkeley campus - 12 - 2 PM at Sproul plaza
Dearborn, MI - 5:00pm on Warren and Oakman
Toronto, Canada - July 18, 2006 (7:00PM) at Dundas and Yonge (across from Easton Centre)
Montreal, Canada - 5:00PM at PMDORCHESTER SQUARE, 1155 METCALFE
Stuttgart, Germany - 6 PM at Schlossplatz in Stuttgart (downtown)
Doha, Qatar - 8:30 PM at Lebanese School of Doha
Abu Dhabi, UAE - 7:00PM in front of the Lebanese embassy Abu Dhabi
Grenoble, France - 6 PM at Place Félix Poullat, Grenoble
Athens, Greece - 7 PM In front of EVAGILISMOS Hospital
Torino, Italy - 5:30PM at Piazza Castello
London, UK - 9PM - 10.30PM on Parliament Sq. London
Abu Dahbi, UAE - 6 PM in front of the Lebanese embassy in Abu Dhabi
TOMORROW:
Boston, MA - 5 pm at Copley Place, in front of Gibran's sculpture.
"Nobody knows how many rebellions, besides political rebellions, ferment in the masses of life which people earth."
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Please update: Boston, US. Wednesday July 19th, 5 pm. Copley Place. In front of Gibran's sculpture.
God bless you and long live Lebanon.
please list the demonstrations against the hizbullah use of Lebanese territory to set up a terrorist region from which to attack a member state of the UN.
thank you,
Dry Bones
Israel's Political Comic Strip Since 1973
i'm willing to take part in a Peaceful Demonstrations to Stop the Violence - if it means to put an end the Hizbulaa
Doha:
I looked at the "peace demonstration's" graphic, linked to bohdisattva's post, and saw that it referred only to Israel's 'murder' of your people. Nothing about HA, Iran, Syria.
It seems to me that these peace people are just part of the anti-Israel propoganda machine.
Many of us truly want peace for your country. Your site shows this so clearly. Many of them are Israelis; there are also Europeans (like me) and Americans.
But anyone who truly wanted peace for your country would (also) be protesting against Syria and Iran, who are using your country and people as a means to further their own interests. It's really cowardly how those 'foreigners' are doing this: your people suffer, not theirs. Nothing in what HA has been doing has any possibility of benefiting Lebanon and its people but, of course, potentially benefits Iran greatly - projecting Iranian influence further into the region. The same thing America, Russia and China used to do in the Cold War: using other countries as pawns in their bigger game, letting others feel the pain while they remained comfortable.
My biggest fear for your country is that some member of the Lebanese government "officially" asks Iran or Syria for "assistance" so that they can annex Lebanon - like, for example, happened in the Russian invasion of Afghanistan. In the long run, the destruction of bridges, ports, runways and gas depots may turn out to be a good thing - preventing this from happening.
Meanwhile, it's Lebanon and Israel that suffer. This is such a tragedy. Many of the posts on your site suggest that these are two countries that could coexist happily alongside each other. But for now - so much pointless suffering.
For my part: I'm staying away from those demonstrations, and I'd urge anyone who really cares about the Lebanese people (as distinct from wanting the defeat of Israel) to do so too.
Lebanon for the Lebanese.
Peace, not ceasefire.
One party cannot be peaceful when the other party is not. Therefore, peace demonstrations only serve to prolong animosities because peacniks reject decisive victories.
Decisive victories vanquish the enemies of peace.
i will be going to the candlelit vigil in London tonight because at least it means that there is a visible demonstration that people want things to be different. hopefully i will get the opporunity to engage in discussion with other interested people to think about what needs to change. clearly this is an argument with roots in history that cannot be solved overnight. blame and slander are wasteful and not resolving the issue that people are dying needlessly and Lebanon is being torn to shreds for a war that doesn't belong to them. The petty jibes on this page are simplistic and I urge all to take a good look at as much information as possible, there is plenty out there for people to make up their own minds.
the shame is that despite learning about the situation I feel powerless to change it, so i will go to the vigil tonight to think about that.
there is also an urgent demonstration called for Saturday 22nd July - see http://www.stopwar.org.uk
Israel blasting all hell out of Lebanese citizens regardless of their relationship to Hezbollah is an unfair and unbalanced response to this situation.
Why is it that the Israelis are offended that us Lebanese want to have peaceful rallies? Is it too much to be given the opportunity to show the world that we don't want our people dead? Can we at least have that right? If you are so upset about your people dying, go and organize a rally yourself. But of course you don't need to, because when you are wronged, you just send in your indiscrimanating war machine to eat in it's way the green and the dry (akhdar wil yebes). Your naivete is astounding, or perhaps you are just being mean and acting dumb in order to insult us and hurt us even more in these horrible times. Our rebuilding effort, our hope, our dreams, all destroyed, and not for the first time on your bloody hands, in a matter of days. Lives shattered by you, your elected government, how can you go to sleep with such a high burden of death on your hands? I'm a humanist, and I have never condoned the killing of any human being for any cause. But my country is dying, and I'm crying to the world, but noone is hearing me. The least I can do is show the world that I stand united with my fellow man, in showing our concern for our beloved, and our disappointment with the world. You see, we have no other means to feel this comfort, because we don't have a big bad mean war machine to help protect our basic need to feel safe. So please, quit patronizing us, not only are we dealing with dead comrades, but also with lost hopes and broken dreams. But we will recover, and rebuild... It's what we're good at.
chen1,
YOU ARE MY HERO! You have more balls and wisdom in you than all those macho arguers put together. Whatever happens, do not change! I hope my children grow up to be like you. And I hope that there are more people like you on both sides of the border. All the old farts should take their arguments and shove them where the sun don't shine.
You sister in peace.
Box - 7:50 -
Could you be more specific on that "pro-israeli-action-mob" thing, please? Like: who do you mean?
I saw no friction on that first message board...
Huh??
Thanx, Tse.
This article, written July 6th, predicted a unilateral Israeli attack!
DANIEL THANK YOU SO MUCH
it is this kind of support and that of many many of our european, arabic and american friends that gives us hope that the world still cares
Please update:
There is a meeting in support of the Lebanese in Paris on Wednesday 19 July at Métro Invalides.
RASSEMBLEMENT MERCREDI 19 JUILLET A 18H30 DEVANT LE MINISTERE FRANCAIS DES AFFAIRES ETRANGERES Métro Invalides
Al-Ghadabulsaati3,
I had not read all the posts so it cannot be a blanket statement. If you read back, you would realize I was reacting to what I described as "macho arguers". As in "let's bomb the s*** out of them" arguers.
Alon,
I am afraid you are drawing a line where it suits you and misrepresenting everything that comes before that.
Between 2000 and 2006 it was not only the people on the Israeli side of the border who suffered. Lebanese suffered from IDF fire too. In my immediate vicinity I know someone who was fishing just south of Tyre, he was picked up by a frog, and was framed for a suicide bombing in Tel Aviv. He was not even a member of Hizballah, let alone a militant. Last year a shepherd was shot in the back. I happened to go to the south the same week and talked to members of the family. He was 16. Not a militant.
These are stories that I have come across with personally. And they were unprovoked as so many people here are so fond of saying. If you are interested, I can dig up more stories like that. And let's not forget the constant invasion of air and water space in Lebanon. Sometimes provoked, many times not. First, Israel calls for Lebanon to exercise its sovereignty and then it constantly invades air and water space. What kind of message does that give? It is like now, asking the army to fight Hizballah with it and then bombing them!
I have been keeping an open mind to understand the other side's point of view. The least you can do is get off the self-righteousness horse and do the same. Try to understand the other side. It is not as black and white as you make it out to be. Your IDF is not as innocent as you would like them to be. We have many stories that attest to that. If you do not listen, I am afraid the only peace there ever will be is an imposed and fragile one.
The point is what is our POLICY towards harming civilians? Is harming civilians our modus operandi?
Yes, Shmulik. I am sorry to tell you that it is. Your justifications are growing weaker by the day with the rising death toll and no matter how you spin it, nothing will morally justify what the IDF is doing to Lebanon right now.
30-50 civlians a day is no where near low. Even granting that it is, you have not looked closely at what the IDF is targeting. Most of these things are not of strategic importance. The civilian airport? A church? A villa? Grain silos? Pharmaceutical factory? And why is help not allowed to get to the villages? Why are refugees who have been warned to flee fired at when they do? Do you want more? Because there is much, much more.
This is collective punishment. It has nothing to do with Hizballah hiding among civilians.
So, yes: harming civilians is your modus operandi.
Shmulik you seem to have a pretty good knowledge and to be open minded. I understand your point but :
Why Isreal did not discuss with Lebanese officials or with western allies before bombing Lebanon, a country which is higlhy considered all around the world as a culturally rich country not as a country governed by fanatics? They should have work harder for a change of regime in Lebanon. They should have show skills of communication and diplomcay. Even if it is hard, it would have shown that they care about their neighbours. I don't beleive war is the solution to every problems. It is not because the US acts like this that it gives Israel the right to start a war involving civilians. Isreal is not the US. It was not clear if Lebanese government was supporting Hizballah. They could have tried to negociate, at least a little bit with Lebanese government. Lebanon really means something for people who like Middle East. It has a great history and diversity. They invoke the UN resolution of Israel retreat from Lebanon but they've never discussed their attacks with the UN. If Isreal wants to kill its ennemies they should look elsewhere than in Lebanon. They are only showing their weaknesses with this war. They must get more allies in the Middle-East.
Thomas
Montreal, Canada
I understand your pain but not your conclusions
How condescending.
It does not seem like you have been following the news closely: the airport terminal was hit after the runways were completely destroyed. I will not go into the rest.
A few mistakes, I understand. I even kept an open mind about it the first few days. But it has exceeded "a few". The IDF is carrying out a systematic attempt at terrorizing the civilian population.
So, again: harming civilians is your modus operandi.
Your sentence, not mine. I am very grateful to you for articulating the situation very clearly.
Shmulik said:
Doha, Do you honestly believe that a religeous organisation like the hizballah that gets 100 million dolars a year from Iran will surrender it's weapons just because Seniora asks nicely?
Shmulik also said:
in the end you can't share a bed with a pschotic killer and than be suprised when the bullets start flying.
Your logic is deteriorating. So, you know that a billion dollar organization better equipped than the Lebanese army cannot be disarmed by the government. But since we are sharing our bed with "these psychotics" we have to pay the price? As what, punishment? Because we cannot disarm them? You are not making sense. Unless it is regarding them as human that we are being punished for?
And no, they would not use cluster bombs when the whole world is watching. Keep treading that thin line between accident and intention. The media will definitely miss it, but not your victims. It is meant to terrorize them and *clap, clap* congratulations, it is definitely working.
Over 200 Australians were killed in Bali, Indonesia as a result of terrorism yet Australia didn't bomb the hell out of Jakarta.
Collective punishment of innocent Lebanese people is not accpetable. Israel is breaking international law and is one of the world's biggest breakers of international laws yet the world doesn't act against it because the US simply vetoes any resolutions in the UN Security Council.
Hezbollah is also breaking international law by killing innocent Israelis. This is also unacceptable. The thing is, this "war" is not about Lebanon or Islam. It is about Hezbollah and Israel.
The US is providing Israel with the weapons to kill innocent Lebanese people and destroy their civilian infrastructure.
Israel's actions are only making Hezbollah and Hamas more popular.
I hope that the powers that be see that the Lebanese have a right to live in peace as do the Israelis. Both sides don't deserve to suffer for the actions of Hezbollah.
merkova,
grow up. you're suggesting these fine lebanese people are to blame. they aren't. they're caught in the middle primarily because of their weak government, military and those outside influences most of them have no idea about.
hamas, hezbollah, israel, iran, syria and to a lesser degree the united states, russia and china are to blame.
these fine people are certainly not to blame!
they had a taste of freedom, of democracy... teased... pleased and then all hell broke loose!
their lives shattered... again... they grow sick of it.
there are no terrorist fund raiser groups here. they want their country, their lives back!
as would i.
I wish good luck to all participants!
Clenbuterol
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